Legislature(2015 - 2016)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/10/2015 01:30 PM House FINANCE



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01:33:36 PM Start
01:33:50 PM HB72 || HB73
07:56:14 PM Adjourn
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Heard & Held
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Heard & Held
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HOUSE BILL NO. 72                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain    programs,    capitalizing   funds,    making                                                                    
     reappropriations, and making  appropriations under art.                                                                    
     IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State  of Alaska,                                                                    
     from  the  constitutional   budget  reserve  fund;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 73                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:33:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman discussed  the agenda for the  day. He asked                                                                    
members  to  limit  their  comments  to  the  scope  of  the                                                                    
amendments.  He   communicated  that  the   committee  would                                                                    
address a Committee Substitute the following morning.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 1:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Reps. Neuman and Thompson                                                                                      
     DEPARTMENT:  Department  of   Commerce,  Community  and                                                                    
     Economic Development                                                                                                       
     APPROPRIATION: Insurance Operations                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Insurance Operations                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS: Add 2 PFT PCNs and delete 2 Non-Perm PCNs                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: The House Subcommittee  deleted a total of                                                                    
     $598.2  and  deleted  8   PFT  positions  in  Insurance                                                                    
     Operations. The  intent was to  delete 6  PFT positions                                                                    
     and 2 Temporary positions.  This amendment corrects the                                                                    
     error.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara OBJECTED.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  explained that the amendment  was technical                                                                    
and  corrected  an  error.  He   detailed  that  the  budget                                                                    
subcommittee  had  deleted a  total  of  $598,200 and  eight                                                                    
full-time positions  in insurance operations.  The amendment                                                                    
reflected  the  subcommittee's  intent,  which  deleted  six                                                                    
full-time and two temporary positions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There  being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 1 was ADOPTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 2:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Neuman and Thompson                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT:  Department  of   Commerce,  Community  and                                                                    
     Economic Development                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.12.   DEPARTMENT   OF  COMMERCE,   COMMUNITY,   AND                                                                    
     ECONOMIC  DEVELOPMENT.  (h)  The  sum  of  $345,000  is                                                                    
     appropriated from federal  receipts for energy projects                                                                    
     to the Department of  Commerce, Community, and Economic                                                                    
     Development,  Alaska  Energy  Authority  for  operating                                                                    
     costs associated  with emerging energy  technology fund                                                                    
     data collection  for the fiscal  years ending  June 30,                                                                    
     2016, June 30, 2017, and June 30, 2018.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: The  Governor's FY15  supplemental request                                                                    
     includes $345,000  of federal receipts as  a multi-year                                                                    
     appropriation. After  discussions with  the department,                                                                    
     it was determined that both  this appropriation and the                                                                    
     supplemental  appropriation are  better described  as a                                                                    
     capital  project.  The  intent  of  the  House  Finance                                                                    
     Committee  is to  include the  full amount  ($690.0) of                                                                    
    federal receipts as a supplemental capital project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  OBJECTED for discussion. He  explained that                                                                    
the amendment was technical. He  elaborated that the federal                                                                    
appropriation request  belonged in the  supplemental capital                                                                    
budget. He  noted that the  amendment did not add  any money                                                                    
to undesignated general funds (UGF).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 2 was ADOPTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:37:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 3:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman, Thompson                                                                               
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Student and School Achievement                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $350,000 General Funds, 1004                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   This  removes   funding  that   was  not                                                                    
     requested by  the Governor. Funds were  for a statewide                                                                    
     license  for  Microsoft Academies  to  be  used by  all                                                                    
     public schools.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman explained  the  amendment. He  communicated                                                                    
that the  project cost $350,000  and was for  Microsoft work                                                                    
for  public schools.  He understood  that the  program would                                                                    
probably  benefit a  significant number  of schools,  but he                                                                    
believed it was an increase  that should go into the capital                                                                    
budget  for   consideration.  He  thought  the   funds  were                                                                    
included in the wrong piece of legislation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  asked for further  explanation on                                                                    
the origin of the initial funding request.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis replied  that  the  request had  been                                                                    
included   in  the   Department  of   Education  and   Early                                                                    
Development (DEED)  budget. She  furthered that  the request                                                                    
had  been in  the former  governor's budget.  The department                                                                    
had  explained to  her that  the program  licensed Microsoft                                                                    
certificates for programs such  as Word and Engineering, for                                                                    
all schools  including the Department of  Corrections (DOC).                                                                    
She had  agreed to remove  the increment because it  was not                                                                    
in the correct budgetary location.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara understood  that former Governor Parnell                                                                    
had  included the  item in  the budget  to provide  students                                                                    
with job  skill training on  software programs. He  asked if                                                                    
his understanding was accurate.  He believed the program was                                                                    
valuable.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis   explained  that  the   program  was                                                                    
utilized  by  students  throughout  the state  and  was  not                                                                    
related  to training  done by  the Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce  Development   (DLWD).  She   had  been   told  by                                                                    
Microsoft that  the company  wanted to  get a  "toe-hold" in                                                                    
the Alaska industry; it wanted  a pilot program in Alaska in                                                                    
rural and  urban areas.  She did  not believe  the operating                                                                    
budget was the right  location for the increment; therefore,                                                                    
she had agreed with the co-chair to withdraw the item.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  remarked that additions were  not typically                                                                    
inserted into the operating budget  by the subcommittees. He                                                                    
repeated his  belief that the  request should be  added into                                                                    
the capital budget.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara OBJECTED.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken  on the motion to adopt Amendment                                                                    
3.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gattis,  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler, Wilson,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (8/3). Amendment 3 was ADOPTED.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:43:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 4:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Reps. Wilson, Neuman, and Thompson                                                                             
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Workers' Compensation                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Workers' Compensation Appeals Commission                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:    $439.6    Workers   Safety    &    Compensation                                                                    
     Administration Account (1157)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS: 2 PFTs                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This  amendment   restores  the  Workers'                                                                    
     Compensation     Appeals    Commission     subcommittee                                                                    
     decrement.   AS   23.30.008(a)   specifies   that   the                                                                    
     "commission shall be the  exclusive and final authority                                                                    
     for the  hearing and determination of  all questions of                                                                    
     law  and  fact  arising  under this  chapter  in  those                                                                    
     matters  that have  been  appealed  to the  commission,                                                                    
     except  for an  appeal  to the  Alaska Supreme  Court."                                                                    
     Defunding   the  Commission   without  repealing   this                                                                    
     statute leaves  aggrieved workers with no  recourse. If                                                                    
     the Commission is eliminated in statute, the fiscal                                                                        
     note should remove the funding.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson explained  that the  amendment would  add                                                                    
$439,600  back  to  the  Workers'  Safety  and  Compensation                                                                    
Administration  Account.  The  increment would  restore  the                                                                    
Workers' Compensation  Appeals Commission. He  detailed that                                                                    
commission would  be the exclusive  and final  authority for                                                                    
the  hearing   and  determination   of  all   questions.  He                                                                    
elaborated   that   the   amendment  would   reinstate   the                                                                    
commission because  without it  the state would  face Alaska                                                                    
Supreme Court cases. He communicated  that if the commission                                                                    
was  eliminated the  fiscal note  would  remove funding  and                                                                    
injured workers would  have no appeal status  or leverage to                                                                    
aggrieve a case.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  added that  the  item  was funded  by  the                                                                    
Workers' Safety Compensation  Administration Account and not                                                                    
UGF.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   requested  to  add  his   name  as  a                                                                    
cosponsor to the amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg requested  to add  his name  as a                                                                    
cosponsor  to  the amendment.  He  believed  there would  be                                                                    
movement  later  in  the session  to  eliminate  the  entire                                                                    
commission  through legislation.  He explained  that without                                                                    
the funds  aggrieved workers had  no place to go;  the state                                                                    
did not  want workers taking  cases directly to  the Supreme                                                                    
Court. He furthered that workers  would be stuck in limbo if                                                                    
the  funding  was  eliminated.  He  believed  the  amendment                                                                    
showed universal  acceptance that there could  be other ways                                                                    
of  handling the  issue  besides  the Workers'  Compensation                                                                    
Appeals Commission.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  noted that legislation  on the  topic would                                                                    
possibly be before the committee at a later time.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 4 was ADOPTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:45:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 5:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Reps. Munoz and Edgmon                                                                                         
     DEPARTMENT: Fish and Game                                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Commercial Fisheries                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: It  is the intent  of the legislature  that moving                                                                    
     the  Commercial Fisheries  Entry Commission  Allocation                                                                    
     under the  Commercial Fisheries Appropriation  does not                                                                    
     diminish   or  affect   their  statutorily   designated                                                                    
     budgetary or  judicial autonomy or authority;  nor does                                                                    
     this move  grant the Commissioner  of Fish and  Game or                                                                    
     designee any budgetary or  operational control over the                                                                    
     Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  intent language  is to  preserve the                                                                    
     independent   and   quasi-judicial  autonomy   of   the                                                                    
     Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  explained   that  during  the  budget                                                                    
subcommittee  process  the  allocation  for  the  Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries  Entry Commission  (CFEC)  had been  moved to  the                                                                    
Commercial  Fisheries area  of  the Department  of Fish  and                                                                    
Game (DFG)  budget. The amendment  reaffirmed the  intent of                                                                    
the legislature  that CFEC functions,  and its  statutory or                                                                    
quasi-judicial authority would not  be diminished. She asked                                                                    
for the committee's support.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 5 was ADOPTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:45:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman moved Amendment 6:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman and Thompson                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Department of Fish and Game                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  It is  the  intent of  the  legislature that  the                                                                    
     department  focus research  and  management dollars  on                                                                    
     fishery systems which have stocks  of concern, in order                                                                    
     to   satisfy  its   constitutional  responsibility   of                                                                    
     managing for sustained yield.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  explained that the  amendment asked  DFG to                                                                    
focus  its   research  projects  and  management   funds  on                                                                    
fisheries  with a  stock of  concern or  areas in  the state                                                                    
that  were  stressed. He  pointed  to  areas of  concern  in                                                                    
Yukon-Kuskokwim, Cook  Inlet, and  Southeast. He  noted that                                                                    
additionally   the   item   satisfied   the   constitutional                                                                    
responsibility on sustainable yield management.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  MOVED to ADOPT a  friendly amendment to                                                                    
Amendment  6. The  amendment to  the amendment  would insert                                                                    
the word "first" before the  word "focus." He explained that                                                                    
the current  wording of the  amendment could require  DFG to                                                                    
focus its  research on stocks  of concern. He  reasoned that                                                                    
the  amendment  may  unintentionally   require  all  of  the                                                                    
department's funds to go to stocks of concern.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  further  explained the  amendment  to  the                                                                    
amendment. He had no objection.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon asked for clarification.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman explained  that the  word "first"  would be                                                                    
inserted between the words "department" and "focus."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being NO  OBJECTION, the amendment to  Amendment 6 was                                                                    
ADOPTED.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his  OBJECTION to the adoption of                                                                    
Amendment 6.  There being NO further  OBJECTION, Amendment 6                                                                    
was ADOPTED as amended.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Pruitt  and Saddler requested to  have their                                                                    
names added as cosponsors to Amendment 6.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:48:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 7:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Saddler, Neuman, Thompson                                                                                 
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Alcohol Safety Action Program (ASAP)                                                                           
     ADD: $500,000 Alcohol and Other Drug Abuse Treatment &                                                                     
     Prevention Fund, 1180                                                                                                      
     $703,800 General Fund, 1004                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:  $1,203,800,   General  Fund/Program  Receipts,                                                                    
     1005                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  action amends  a change made  by the                                                                    
     DHSS  Budget  Subcommittee;   it  replaces  GF  Program                                                                    
     Receipts with money from the  general fund and from the                                                                    
     Alcohol  and Other  Drug Abuse  Treatment &  Prevention                                                                    
     Fund. Collections  for the  ASAP program  are currently                                                                    
     maximized  and additional  GP/Program receipts  are not                                                                    
     available. Over  80 percent of the  participants in the                                                                    
     24-7  Sobriety  Program  are  deemed  indigent  by  the                                                                    
     courts and  are not  required to  pay the  testing fees                                                                    
     themselves.  DHSS estimates  that, without  the funding                                                                    
     provided by this amendment, ASAP  would be able to test                                                                    
     less  than  20  percent  of participants  in  the  24-7                                                                    
     Sobriety  Program.  People  unable  to  be  tested  and                                                                    
     monitored often  remain incarcerated,  increasing costs                                                                    
     to the state.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler explained  that the  budget subcommittee                                                                    
had sought to place more  costs of the Alcohol Safety Action                                                                    
Program on  the costs of participants.  The subcommittee had                                                                    
learned from the department that  it was maxed out and could                                                                    
not  get   additional  receipts  even  if   it  had  receipt                                                                    
authority.   He  discussed   that   many   of  the   program                                                                    
participants  were  indigent  and  could  not  make  payment                                                                    
themselves. He  elaborated that $500,000 of  the funding had                                                                    
been located in  the Alcohol and Other  Drug Abuse Treatment                                                                    
and  Prevention  Fund  and the  remainder  would  come  from                                                                    
General Funds (GF).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  clarified   that  the  amendment  replaced                                                                    
$500,000 in  UGF spending  with funds  from the  Alcohol and                                                                    
Other Drug  Abuse Treatment and Prevention  Fund. Vice-Chair                                                                    
Saddler agreed.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  about  the  source of  the                                                                    
funds  in the  Alcohol and  Other Drug  Abuse Treatment  and                                                                    
Prevention Fund. Vice-Chair Saddler  replied that funds came                                                                    
from alcohol taxes. He relayed  that the Legislative Finance                                                                    
Division had  provided assurance that there  were sufficient                                                                    
funds in the account to support the increment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 7 was ADOPTED.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 8:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY:   Representatives  Neuman,   Thompson  and                                                                    
     Saddler                                                                                                                    
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Family Preservation                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $2,938.4 UGF (1004)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  The Office  of Children's  Services plans                                                                    
     to partner  with the Division  of Public  Assistance to                                                                    
     use  available  T ANF  grants  to  provide funding  for                                                                    
     Child Advocacy Centers with  federal funds. The receipt                                                                    
     authority  in  the  Division of  Public  Assistance  is                                                                    
     already present.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Family Preservation                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $2,938.41/A Receipt Authority (1007)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  In  order  to   use  Division  of  Public                                                                    
     Assistance  grants, the  Office of  Children's Services                                                                    
     Interagency Receipt authority.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman and Representative Gara OBJECTED.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler explained that  the amendment reflected a                                                                    
fund  source change  from UGF  to  interagency receipts.  He                                                                    
noted that diligent work had  discovered the availability of                                                                    
$3  million  in  [federal] Temporary  Assistance  for  Needy                                                                    
Families  to pay  for child  advocacy  centers under  Family                                                                    
Preservation.  The  amendment   allowed  the  Department  of                                                                    
Health  and  Social Services  (DHSS)  to  transfer the  $2.9                                                                    
million  from Public  Assistance to  the Office  of Children                                                                    
Services (OCS) Family Preservation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:50:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara MAINTAINED  his OBJECTION.  He believed                                                                    
the   amendment  was   missing  a   crucial  component.   He                                                                    
elaborated  that  DHSS  had  been  diligently  searching  to                                                                    
locate  federal   funds  to   replace  general   funds;  the                                                                    
department  had located  $3 million  to fund  child advocacy                                                                    
centers, which  freed up $3  million in GF. He  relayed that                                                                    
that the department  planned to use the $3 million  in GF to                                                                    
begin  fixing  the  foster  care   system.  The  system  was                                                                    
experiencing  challenges due  to  short staffing  in OCS  (a                                                                    
study  by the  former governor  indicated that  the division                                                                    
was  50   staff  short).  Additionally,  foster   youth  had                                                                    
increased from  1,700 to  2,400 in the  last five  years. He                                                                    
stressed that  the funds offered  the best chance  at fixing                                                                    
the  staff shortage  at OCS  and the  division's ability  to                                                                    
detect child abuse and neglect.  He emphasized that it was a                                                                    
lost opportunity  to protect  abused and  neglected children                                                                    
in the state. He noted that  100 percent of the children did                                                                    
not have  parents to  responsibly take care  of them  and 60                                                                    
percent  of the  children were  Alaska Native.  He concluded                                                                    
that  the state  acted as  the guardian  of foster  children                                                                    
because it had taken them away from their parents.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gattis,   Guttenberg,   Munoz,  Pruitt,   Saddler,                                                                    
Wilson, Edgmon, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Kawasaki, Gara                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION  to adopt Amendment  8 PASSED (9/2).  Amendment 8                                                                    
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:54:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 9:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Edgmon, Neuman, Thompson                                                                                  
     DEPARTMENT: Administration                                                                                                 
     APPROPRIATION: Public Communications Services                                                                              
     ALLOCATION: Public Broadcasting Commission                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $21,800 General Fund (1004)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Public Broadcasting - Radio                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1, 182, 700 General Fund (1004)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Public Broadcasting- T.V.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $295,500 General Fund (1004)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This   amendment  restores  a   total  of                                                                    
     $1,500,000  in   the  Public   Communications  Services                                                                    
     appropriation, or 87 percent  of the House subcommittee                                                                    
     proposed budget reduction of $1,716,000.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment would increase funding for                                                                                  
        · Public Broadcasting Commission from $24,900 to                                                                        
          $46,700;                                                                                                              
        · Public Broadcasting - Radio from $1,353,000 to                                                                        
          $2,535,700; and                                                                                                       
        · Public   Broadcasting-T.V.    from   $337,800   to                                                                    
          $633,300.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
restore  $1,500,000 in  the  Public Communications  Services                                                                    
appropriation,  or  87  percent of  the  House  subcommittee                                                                    
proposed  budget reduction  of  $1,716,000.  He pointed  out                                                                    
that  the   amendment  detailed  how  the   money  would  be                                                                    
allocated between three areas.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  OBJECTED. She remarked that  the item                                                                    
was "public" radio  and the state did not have  the money to                                                                    
provide  the funds.  She elaborated  that the  state was  in                                                                    
deficit and  could not continue every  program. She believed                                                                    
communities would  have to be  responsible for  funding some                                                                    
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  appreciated  the  need  to  cut  the                                                                    
budget,  which the  committee was  doing during  the current                                                                    
meeting.  He   countered  with  the  importance   of  public                                                                    
broadcasting.  He  reasoned  that the  committee  had  heard                                                                    
about the importance of  public broadcasting repeatedly from                                                                    
every corner  of the  state. He believed  the need  had been                                                                    
fully demonstrated.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  reluctantly supported  the amendment.                                                                    
She had  been raised  on public  radio, but  it was  "a long                                                                    
time  ago."  She  believed there  were  other  opportunities                                                                    
available at  present. She communicated  her intent  to work                                                                    
on the  budget in depth  throughout the interim  with public                                                                    
radio stations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   recalled  former   Senator  Ted                                                                    
Stevens  speaking up  for public  broadcasting. He  remarked                                                                    
that public  broadcasting included  more than  Sesame Street                                                                    
and Alaska  News Nightly. He  cited Senator  Steven's belief                                                                    
that    public   broadcasting    was   the    backbone   and                                                                    
infrastructure of  communication across the state.  He noted                                                                    
that the  cut proposed  by the  budget subcommittee  was not                                                                    
the  first  cut  to  public  broadcasting;  it  was  on  the                                                                    
chopping  block annually.  He stated  that the  stations had                                                                    
been successful  at building a  network of  efficiencies. He                                                                    
elaborated on  the significant  percentage of  people giving                                                                    
to public broadcasting. He believed  even the small cut that                                                                    
would remain under  the amendment was too  much. He stressed                                                                    
that making  significant cuts  to public  broadcasting would                                                                    
mean  the  loss of  an  infrastructure  in Alaska  that  was                                                                    
irreplaceable.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  asked to  have  his  name added  as  a                                                                    
cosponsor. However, he noted concern  that the amendment did                                                                    
not reflect a full restoration of the cut.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson MAINTAINED her OBJECTION.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg,  Kawasaki,   Munoz,  Pruitt,  Saddler,                                                                    
Edgmon, Gara, Gattis, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                          
OPPOSED: Wilson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to  adopt Amendment 9 PASSED  (10/1). Amendment 9                                                                    
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:59:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 10:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman, Thompson                                                                               
     DEPARTMENT: Administration                                                                                                 
    APPROPRIATION: Centralized Administrative Services                                                                          
     ALLOCATION: Office of the Commissioner                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD the following language:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     It is  the intent of  the legislature that,  in FY2016,                                                                    
     the  Department of  Administration implements  the plan                                                                    
     to   consolidate   statewide   information   technology                                                                    
     services  including  IT  procurement,  IT  support,  IT                                                                    
     contractual   services   and  IT   services   currently                                                                    
     performed  by  executive  branch state  employees.  The                                                                    
     stated goal  of the plan  is to improve  services while                                                                    
     reducing   executive   branch  information   technology                                                                    
     spending.  The legislature  established a  savings goal                                                                    
     of   approximately  30   percent   --estimated  to   be                                                                    
     $67,000,000--over three fiscal years.  It is the intent                                                                    
     of   the    legislature   that   the    Department   of                                                                    
     Administration submit a report  to the House and Senate                                                                    
     Finance Committees  annually by  January 15th,  for the                                                                    
     next three  years, identifying in  detail the  path and                                                                    
     tasks to achieve the total savings.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Enterprise Technology                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE intent language reading:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     Department  of  Administration, through  implementation                                                                    
     of   its  five-year   statewide  plan   to  consolidate                                                                    
     statewide  information  technology services,  including                                                                    
     procurement,   support,    and   contracting   services                                                                    
     previously  done  by  state employees,  realize  twenty                                                                    
     five  million  dollars   in  savings  statewide  during                                                                    
     FY2016. It  is the intent  of the legislature  that the                                                                    
     Department   of   Administration    submit   a   report                                                                    
     identifying and  detailing these  savings to  the House                                                                    
    and Senate Finance Committees by January 15, 2016.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:    Facilitate   implementation    of   the                                                                    
     Department of Administration  2015 Enterprise Strategic                                                                    
     IT Plan                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  explained  that  the  amendment  had  been                                                                    
brought   to   the   committee    by   the   Department   of                                                                    
Administration (DOA).  He detailed  that the  department had                                                                    
recently  had research  conducted  on  the consolidation  of                                                                    
information  technology (IT)  services.  He elaborated  that                                                                    
the  amendment  directed  the   department  to  provide  for                                                                    
financial savings.  A program  had been  implemented several                                                                    
years earlier with the anticipation  that some savings would                                                                    
occur;  the legislature  had established  a savings  goal of                                                                    
approximately 30  percent (estimated to be  $67,000,000 over                                                                    
three  fiscal   years).  The  amendment  would   direct  the                                                                    
department to follow through on  what it would cost to cover                                                                    
some of  its investments  in IT.  He thanked  the department                                                                    
for  bringing  the  amendment forward  for  the  committee's                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   voiced  his  support   for  the                                                                    
amendment. He spoke to the  IT infrastructure that the state                                                                    
was building for  procurement support, contractual services,                                                                    
and  other things  the state  should be  doing. He  spoke to                                                                    
savings  in  IT  and  the state  moving  towards  a  modern,                                                                    
efficient  telecommunications  infrastructure. He  discussed                                                                    
the  need  for greater  expansion  of  broadband, which  was                                                                    
expensive. He believed the need  for further broadband would                                                                    
be  beneficial  for the  entire  state.  He noted  that  all                                                                    
departments  pointed to  deficiencies in  broadband and  the                                                                    
inability  to  deliver  services  due  to  slow  speeds.  He                                                                    
assumed the  department would  build out  the infrastructure                                                                    
and efficiencies and would need increased bandwidth.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  requested  to  add  his  name  as  a                                                                    
cosponsor  to the  amendment. He  appreciated the  amendment                                                                    
and  opined that  the strategy  was exactly  what the  state                                                                    
should be  doing if  it was  going to  get control  of state                                                                    
spending.  He  had  been  told   the  prior  fall  that  the                                                                    
Department of  Public Safety (DPS) and  DOC computer systems                                                                    
were  not aligned;  therefore, the  state was  wasting money                                                                    
transporting  prisoners.  He   stressed  the  importance  of                                                                    
consolidation and tightening up procurement.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara wondered  if the  amendment restored  a                                                                    
$400,000  reduction  by  the  budget  subcommittee  for  the                                                                    
University of Alaska student advising services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman noted that the  issue was separate. He noted                                                                    
that the  issue pertained to  the University of  Alaska; the                                                                    
current amendment related to DOA IT services.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis  requested  to  add  her  name  as  a                                                                    
cosponsor to the  amendment. She had chaired  the DOA budget                                                                    
subcommittee.  She detailed  that  the savings  would be  10                                                                    
percent per year.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representatives  Wilson, Saddler,  and Guttenberg  requested                                                                    
to add their names as cosponsors to the amendment.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment 10 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 11 [Note: see                                                                     
copy on file for detailed explanations]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY:  Representatives Neuman, Thompson,  Munoz &                                                                    
     Edgmon                                                                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Various (21 Allocations)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     TOTAL ADD: $10,831.2 UGF (1004)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The  University of  Alaska  budget  recommended by  the                                                                    
     subcommittee  contains $334,768.5  of Unrestricted  GF.                                                                    
     That amount  is $35,83 I .2  below Mgt Plan for  FYI 5.                                                                    
     This amendment  will bring the  FY16 UGF budget  to $25                                                                    
     million  below  the  FYI 5  Mgt  Plan.  The  University                                                                    
     estimates     that    approving     the    subcommittee                                                                    
     recommendation  would  result  in  the  elimination  of                                                                    
     approximately  I  78  positions throughout  the  state.                                                                    
     This  amendment would  allow the  University to  retain                                                                    
     approximately  75  of   those  positions  (and  provide                                                                    
     associated  services)  throughout   the  University  of                                                                    
     Alaska   system.   Individual  allocations,   line-item                                                                    
     breakouts,  and  impacts  of   this  amendment  are  as                                                                    
     follows:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Statewide Services                                                                                             
     ADD: $402.6 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $348. I personal services                                                                                                  
     $ 54.5 travel                                                                                                              
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $3,691.7)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
    ALLOCATION: Office of Information Technology (OIT)                                                                          
     ADD: $280.6 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $280.6 personal services                                                                                                   
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $2,224.3)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: System-wide Education & Outreach                                                                               
     ADD: $32.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $32.5 personal services                                                                                                    
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $257.8)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Anchorage Campus                                                                                               
     ADD: $2,564.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                   
     $1,214. 7 personal services                                                                                                
     $ 849.8 travel                                                                                                             
     $ 500.0 contractual services                                                                                               
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $6,777.8)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Small Business Development Center                                                                              
     ADD: $27.8 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $13.9 personal services (71000)                                                                                            
     $13.9 contractual services (73000)                                                                                         
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $47.5)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Kenai Peninsula College                                                                                        
     ADD: $110.6 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $14.1 personal services                                                                                                    
     $96.5 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $329.4).                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Kodiak College                                                                                                 
     ADD: $47.1 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $11.2 personal services                                                                                                    
     $35.9 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $122.6)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Mat-Su College                                                                                                 
     ADD: $80.4 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $ 11.8 personal services                                                                                                   
     $ 68.6 contractual services                                                                                                
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $234.2)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Prince William Sound College                                                                                   
     ADD: $69. 7 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $26.5 personal services                                                                                                    
     $43.2 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $147.6)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Fairbanks Campus                                                                                               
     ADD: $3,310.6 UGF (1004)                                                                                                   
     $2,352.3 personal services                                                                                                 
     $ 958.3 travel                                                                                                             
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $7,555.4)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Fairbanks Organized Research                                                                                   
     ADD: $616.7 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $461.4 personal services                                                                                                   
     $155.3 contractual services                                                                                                
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $922.8)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Cooperative Extension Services                                                                                 
     ADD: $29.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $29.5 travel                                                                                                               
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $50.0)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Bristol Bay Campus                                                                                             
     ADD: $22.3 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $2.8 personal services                                                                                                     
     $19. 5 contractual services                                                                                                
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $66.8)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Chukchi Campus                                                                                                 
     ADD: $14.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $1.2 personal services                                                                                                     
     $13 .3 contractual services                                                                                                
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $45.6)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Interior-Aleutians Campus                                                                                      
     ADD: $30.8 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $6.6 personal services                                                                                                     
     $24.2 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $82.5)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Kuskokwim Campus                                                                                               
     ADD: $53.6 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $10 .4 personal services                                                                                                   
     $43.2 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House  Finance   Subcommittee  recommended  reduction:                                                                    
     $147.4)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Northwest Campus                                                                                               
     ADD: $39.4 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $16.9 personal services                                                                                                    
     $22.5 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House Finance Subcommittee recommended reduction:                                                                         
     $76.7)                                                                                                                     
     Representative Wilson objected.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: College of Rural and Community Development                                                                     
     ADD: $140.1 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $59.0 personal services                                                                                                    
     $81.1 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House Finance Subcommittee recommended reduction:                                                                         
     $276.9)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: UAF Community and Technical College                                                                            
     ADD: $74.9 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     ($4.1) personal services                                                                                                   
     $79.0 contractual services                                                                                                 
     (House Finance Subcommittee recommended reduction:                                                                         
     $269.5)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Juneau Campus                                                                                                  
     ADD: $558.6 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     $360.6 personal services                                                                                                   
     $198.0 travel                                                                                                              
     (House Finance Subcommittee recommended reduction:                                                                         
     $1,405.3)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Ketchikan Campus                                                                                               
     ADD: $40.7 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $40.7 personal services                                                                                                    
     (House Finance Subcommittee recommended reduction:                                                                         
     $116.2)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Sitka Campus                                                                                                   
     ADD: $48.0 UGF (1004)                                                                                                      
     $48.0 personal services                                                                                                    
     (House Finance Subcommittee recommended reduction:                                                                         
     $152.0)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Budget Reductions/Additions - System-wide                                                                      
     ADD: $754.2 General Fund (1004)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,081.5, general funds (1004)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
Representative  Munoz explained  Amendment 11.  She detailed                                                                    
that  the current  reduction to  the  University budget  was                                                                    
$35.8  million   below  the  FY  15   management  plan;  the                                                                    
amendment would  bring the  FY 16 UGF  to $25  million below                                                                    
the FY 15 management plan.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  spoke  against  the  amendment.  She                                                                    
stated that the University  budget was difficult; one amount                                                                    
was  basically  appropriated to  the  Board  of Regents  for                                                                    
distribution.  She  stated  that   the  amendment  gave  the                                                                    
impression that a designated number  of individuals would be                                                                    
put  back to  work. She  referred to  discussion during  the                                                                    
committee  process related  to  graduation  rates that  were                                                                    
about  31.8 percent  statewide; part  of the  discussion had                                                                    
related  to  increased  revenue that  would  result  if  the                                                                    
students were  retained [throughout their  college careers].                                                                    
She remarked  on the  large size of  the state's  budget and                                                                    
noted that over  55 people at the University  made more than                                                                    
the  governor and  over 1,500  earn more  than $100,000  per                                                                    
year.  She  stated that  cuts  were  hard and  "the  private                                                                    
industry are  making those." Additionally, she  believed the                                                                    
University  was leasing  a multitude  of  buildings that  it                                                                    
would be looking at in the  coming year to determine if more                                                                    
needed  to  be  brought  back on  campus.  She  opined  that                                                                    
perhaps  the  budget  needed  to  be  provided  in  multiple                                                                    
allocations. She believed it may  be prudent to some combine                                                                    
training schools  with the University.  She stated  that the                                                                    
proposed reduction  was less than  10 percent.  She remarked                                                                    
that the University received over  $899 million. In response                                                                    
to  an earlier  question by  Representative Gara,  she added                                                                    
that  the  amendment  would   restore  $400,000  in  student                                                                    
counseling.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara agreed  that  the  University had  poor                                                                    
graduation  rates,  which were  the  lowest  in the  nation.                                                                    
However, the university had begun  a student advisor program                                                                    
to  increase graduation  rates. He  opined that  eliminating                                                                    
funding for  student advisors would increase  the graduation                                                                    
rate problem.  He asked where  the increase appeared  in the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman replied  that the  University received  one                                                                    
allocation that it could split how it wanted.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis struggled  with  putting $10  million                                                                    
back in  the university  budget under the  current financial                                                                    
circumstances.  She recognized  that  other  areas had  been                                                                    
cut.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  referenced Representative  Gara's earlier                                                                    
question  and  pointed  to  page 9  of  the  amendment.  The                                                                    
explanation read that  $400,000 GF would be added  as a one-                                                                    
time funding restoration for student advising.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt echoed  the comments of Representative                                                                    
Gattis. He  spoke as University  alum; one of  the struggles                                                                    
that  existed   was  the  failure  to   recognize  that  the                                                                    
university was a  system and not three  universities. He was                                                                    
not  confident that  the University  had gotten  out of  the                                                                    
silos that  were creating some  of the barriers  and burdens                                                                    
to being more efficient with  the state's money. He spoke in                                                                    
opposition to  the amendment; he  felt that it was  time the                                                                    
state  did  something  to address  the  need  for  increased                                                                    
efficiency. He stressed  that the state could  not afford to                                                                    
continue its current path.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  clarified that the  amendment was                                                                    
not an addition  of $10 million to  the University's budget;                                                                    
it  was a  reduction of  the proposed  cut from  $35 million                                                                    
down to $25 million.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon spoke in  support of the amendment. He                                                                    
added  that  the proposed  cut  was  in  addition to  a  $16                                                                    
million  cut from  the  prior year.  He  contended that  the                                                                    
figures  represented   a  steep   phasing  down   of  staff,                                                                    
services,   curriculum,  and   programs.  He   believed  the                                                                    
amendment   better   achieved   the  delicate   balance   of                                                                    
downsizing without crippling a government entity.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  was torn on the  amendment. He applauded                                                                    
the  efforts of  Representative  Munoz  to find  significant                                                                    
reductions; the  state faced significant  budget challenges.                                                                    
However, he noted that it was  a reduction of $25 million in                                                                    
round one.  He remarked that  there would be a  second round                                                                    
of reductions the following year.  He intended to spend time                                                                    
over  the   interim  sharpening   his  perspective   on  the                                                                    
University budget and how to "sharpen his budget knife."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  clarified that there had  been an $18                                                                    
million and not a $60 million cut the previous year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon replied that he had said $16 million.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman added  all of the budgets  would be scrubbed                                                                    
and  looked  at   throughout  the  rest  of   the  year.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  the legislature  would continue to  look at                                                                    
all  departments  for clarification  on  how  they could  be                                                                    
refined and improved.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson MAINTAINED her OBJECTION.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Kawasaki,    Munoz,    Saddler,   Edgmon,    Gara,                                                                    
Guttenberg, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                    
OPPOSED: Pruitt, Wilson, Gattis,                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 11 PASSED (8/3). Amendment 11                                                                     
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:14:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 12:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Reps. Neuman and Thompson                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD  a   new  subsection  to  section   4  (Legislative                                                                    
     Intent):                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     It  is the  intent of  the legislature  that all  state                                                                    
     agencies and instrumentalities  that intend to contract                                                                    
     for basic or  applied research, including consultation,                                                                    
     undertaking a study, performing  a needs assessment, or                                                                    
     providing   an   analysis,   pursue   discussions   and                                                                    
     negotiations with  the University's  Vice-President for                                                                    
     Academic  Affairs  and  Research to  determine  if  the                                                                    
     University can provide that service  to the agency, and                                                                    
     if  so,  to obtain  that  service  from the  University                                                                    
     unless contrary to  the best interests of  the State or                                                                    
     contrary to another provision of law.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  The   directive  to  contract   with  the                                                                    
     University   is   subject  to   negotiation   including                                                                    
     negotiations   regarding   the  cost   of   services-as                                                                    
     indicated by the  phrase "in the best  interests of the                                                                    
     State."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman explained that  the amendment directed state                                                                    
agencies and "instrumentalities that  intend to contract for                                                                    
basic or applied  research" to try to use  the University to                                                                    
conduct research  projects needed by the  state. He detailed                                                                    
that he  had received  a "glossy"  report from  the wildlife                                                                    
commission that  had been done  by the University  of Oregon                                                                    
related  to   the  economics  of  wildlife   in  Alaska.  He                                                                    
questioned why  the state was  not using its  own university                                                                    
to do  the work. The  amendment asked state agencies  to use                                                                    
the  University of  Alaska and  its  students [for  research                                                                    
projects]. He spoke to the  knowledge the University and its                                                                    
students had about Alaska's wildlife.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  spoke  in   strong  support  of  the                                                                    
amendment. She remarked on the  great research abilities the                                                                    
University had.  She noted that  the University had  done an                                                                    
"awesome" presentation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representatives  Wilson,  Saddler,  Pruitt,  Gattis,  Munoz,                                                                    
Edgmon,  Guttenberg   requested  to   add  their   names  as                                                                    
cosponsors to the Amendment 12.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 12 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:16:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 13:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Edgmon                                                                                                    
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: It  is the intent  of the legislature to  have the                                                                    
     University of  Alaska focus the majority  of additional                                                                    
     decrements  through reduction  in management  positions                                                                    
     from below the chancellor  level through the levels of:                                                                    
     Associate  Deans; Vice,  Assistant, and  Associate Vice                                                                    
     Provosts;   Vice,   Assistant,   and   Associate   Vice                                                                    
     Chancellor; and Shaping Alaska's Future staff.                                                                             
     EXPLANATION: The  University of Alaska  can consolidate                                                                    
     positions   to   increase   efficiencies   and   reduce                                                                    
     overlapped job duties.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon explained  that the amendment included                                                                    
intent  language  he  had received  by  Representative  Paul                                                                    
Seaton, a member of the  University budget subcommittee. The                                                                    
language specified that in the  future the University should                                                                    
focus  the   majority  of   its  additional   decrements  on                                                                    
reduction  in  management  positions  below  the  chancellor                                                                    
level. The intent was that the  action would be a better way                                                                    
to   absorb  reductions   by  increasing   efficiencies  and                                                                    
reducing any overlapping job duties.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki   observed  that   the   amendment                                                                    
appeared to only  speak to the local  chancellor's level and                                                                    
not statewide presidents and vice presidents.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon replied that  the appropriation was to                                                                    
the  University.  He believed  the  maker  of the  amendment                                                                    
intended it to apply to the statewide system.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 13 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representatives  Wilson,  Gattis,  Thompson,  Gara,  Pruitt,                                                                    
Saddler asked to be added as cosponsors to Amendment 13.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:18:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 14:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman, Thompson & Saddler                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION: Behavioral Health Treatment and Recovery                                                                       
     Grants                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $500,000 UGF 1004                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Senior and Disabilities Services                                                                            
     ALLOCATION: Senior Community Based Grants                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $500,000 UGF 1004                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This amendment  removes funding  from the                                                                    
     Behavioral  Health  Treatment  and Recovery  Grants  in                                                                    
     order  to add  funding  to the  Senior Community  Based                                                                    
     Grants  to  restore  funding for  Adult  Day  Services.                                                                    
     Adult  Day Services  provided through  Senior Community                                                                    
     Based Grants allow family  caregivers to maintain their                                                                    
     own  employment  schedules  by providing  day  care  to                                                                    
     seniors,  enabling them  to return  to their  own homes                                                                    
     every evening  instead of moving  in to  more expensive                                                                    
     alternatives.   The  Senior   Community  Based   Grants                                                                    
     program  encompasses  multiple  services with  a  total                                                                    
     budget  of $16,608.8;  the Adult  Day Services  portion                                                                    
     comprises $1,575.0  of that  total. A  $500.0 reduction                                                                    
     is a 31.7 percent cut.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  explained   that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
transfer $500,000  in UGF  from Behavioral  Health Treatment                                                                    
and  Recovery Grants  to Senior  Community Based  Grants for                                                                    
adult  day   services.  He   spoke  to   significant  public                                                                    
testimony  in  support  of  adult  day  services  that  kept                                                                    
seniors  at home,  occupied, provided  a  cost savings,  and                                                                    
other. He detailed that Senior  Community Based Services had                                                                    
$16 million  and adult day  services had  approximately $1.5                                                                    
million. He  stated that the reduction  in Behavioral Health                                                                    
Grants  was a  small  reduction. He  believed the  amendment                                                                    
represented an appropriate transfer of assets.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   supported  the   amendment.  He                                                                    
addressed  the grant  and the  impact it  would have  on the                                                                    
community. He  recognized that the amendment  would keep and                                                                    
support families at  home, but he observed  that the state's                                                                    
population  was growing.  He hoped  the state  would monitor                                                                    
and quantify  what it cost  the state if the  population did                                                                    
not receive the  grants. He reasoned that a  little money up                                                                    
front  would save  a significant  amount down  the road.  He                                                                    
spoke to results that would pay  off for the state. He hoped                                                                    
the department would monitor the issue going forward.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  MOVED to  divide the  amendment. He                                                                    
spoke in  support of the  second half of the  amendment that                                                                    
restored funding  to Senior Community  Based Grants,  but he                                                                    
was uncertain  about the cut to  Behavioral Health Treatment                                                                    
and  Recovery  Grants. He  observed  that  the cut  was  not                                                                    
insignificant  (approximately 13  percent GF  reduction). He                                                                    
referred to many  discussions that had taken  place with the                                                                    
department about  Behavioral Health and the  need for active                                                                    
management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  replied in the negative.  He clarified that                                                                    
$500,000  was  not  a 13  percent  reduction  to  Behavioral                                                                    
Health. He  believed Behavioral Health Grants  were close to                                                                    
$200 million. Vice-Chair Saddler agreed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  opposed dividing  the question  because the                                                                    
amendment would transfer money from one grant to another.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:22:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  MOVED an amendment  to Amendment  14 to                                                                    
delete   the  $500,000   reduction   to  Behavioral   Health                                                                    
Treatment    and   Recovery    Grants.   He    agreed   with                                                                    
Representative  Kawasaki. He  referred to  compelling public                                                                    
testimony  the committee  had heard  from families  that use                                                                    
adult day  services. He highlighted that  families using the                                                                    
services worked  and needed a  place for a family  member in                                                                    
their care  to stay during  the day. He  supported restoring                                                                    
funds  to the  program.  However, he  stressed that  cutting                                                                    
$500,000  from  substance  abuse treatment  was  unwise.  He                                                                    
noted that drug abuse was  increasing in Alaska. He spoke to                                                                    
current lengthy waiting lists  for substance abuse treatment                                                                    
programs. He  disputed that the amendment  would save money.                                                                    
He  underscored  that the  amendment  would  cut money  that                                                                    
would    result   in    increased   crime    and   dangerous                                                                    
neighborhoods.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED to the amendment to Amendment 14.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  supported the original  Amendment 14.                                                                    
She  agreed  with  Representative Gara,  but  stressed  that                                                                    
making  cuts was  not easy.  She emphasized  that the  state                                                                    
could not afford its past level of spending.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  communicated that the committee  would vote                                                                    
on whether to  amend Amendment 14 by separating  it into two                                                                    
parts.  He   reiterated  his   objection  to   the  proposed                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  a procedural  question. He                                                                    
wondered  why Representative  Kawasaki's  request to  divide                                                                    
the  question  had  not  been  allowed,  but  Representative                                                                    
Gara's motion to amend Amendment 14 had been allowed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to amend Amendment 14 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken  on the motion to adopt Amendment                                                                    
14.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Pruitt,    Saddler,   Wilson,    Edgmon,   Gattis,                                                                    
Kawasaki, Munoz, Gara, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Guttenberg                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (10/1). Amendment 14 was ADOPTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:28:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 15:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Pruitt, Neuman, Thompson                                                                                  
     DEPARTMENT: Natural Resources                                                                                              
     APPROPRIATION: Land & Water Resources                                                                                      
     ALLOCATION: Forest Management & Development                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $245,200 General Fund, 1004                                                                                           
     $400,000 Timber Rep, 1155                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS: Add 3 positions in the Ketchikan Area                                                                           
     Office and 1 position in the Juneau Office                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: Use timber receipts  to fund operations of                                                                    
     southeast forestry  offices. Currently  timber receipts                                                                    
     alone aren't  enough to cover operations  of the timber                                                                    
     sale  program in  southeast. This  amendment reinstates                                                                    
     southeast  forestry offices  at a  reduced level  using                                                                    
     timber receipts to help fund operations with some UGF.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
restore a  portion of funding  to the timber  sales program.                                                                    
He  detailed that  the  budget  subcommittee had  recognized                                                                    
that a substantial amount of  UGF (approximately $3 million)                                                                    
was going  into the overall  timber program with  a $400,000                                                                    
return in  sales receipts the  prior year.  The subcommittee                                                                    
had worked  to determine how  the industry could  cover more                                                                    
of the costs; the subcommittee  had cut some of the funding,                                                                    
but  the cut  had been  more significant  than intended.  He                                                                    
relayed  that   the  goal  was  to   bring  about  increased                                                                    
efficiency,  but  not  to shut  down  the  Southeast  timber                                                                    
industry. He had  worked with the department  on the ability                                                                    
to maintain  operations with  the Southeast  forestry office                                                                    
to continue sales with three  positions in Ketchikan and one                                                                    
position  in  Juneau.  The   amendment  would  bring  timber                                                                    
receipts up to  $400,000 with the intent that  it would give                                                                    
the department the buffer it needed to perform the work.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson asked if  timber receipts went back to                                                                    
the  general fund.  Representative Pruitt  replied that  the                                                                    
timber receipts  would go back  to the forestry  office. The                                                                    
amendment would  give the forestry  office the  authority to                                                                    
use up to $400,000. He  elaborated that the office estimated                                                                    
that there  may be up to  $400,000 in the upcoming  year; if                                                                    
there were funds  that exceeded the amount  he believed they                                                                    
would be deposited into designated receipts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman agreed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki stated  that  timber receipts  were                                                                    
received from timber  sales and proceeds. He  wondered if it                                                                    
was reasonable to  believe that the same  number of receipts                                                                    
would be  generated if  the number of  staff was  reduced by                                                                    
seven.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt   replied  in  the   affirmative.  He                                                                    
elaborated that  the receipts should still  be received from                                                                    
Southeast because timber sales could continue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  spoke in support of  the amendment and                                                                    
requested  to  have  her  name added  as  a  cosponsor.  She                                                                    
appreciated the subcommittee chair's  work on the issue. She                                                                    
stressed that  the item  was a  very important  function for                                                                    
Southeast  Alaska. She  noted that  the committee  had heard                                                                    
public  testimony from  operators  throughout Southeast  who                                                                    
had been concerned about the removal of the program.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:31:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked for an explanation  pertaining to                                                                    
the deletion  of 11 positions throughout  Southeast; the cut                                                                    
was  $1.292 million  in  UGF. He  noted  that the  amendment                                                                    
would  restore approximately  one-fifth  of  the amount.  He                                                                    
wondered how the same level of timber activity could occur.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Pruitt  explained   that  there   were  ten                                                                    
positions  in Southeast  and one  in  Copper. The  amendment                                                                    
would restore  four of  the ten  positions in  Southeast. He                                                                    
discussed  that  the  Anchorage and  Fairbanks  offices  had                                                                    
staff  that  could  assist  with  the  program.  There  were                                                                    
several  administrative  positions. Essentially,  the  issue                                                                    
pertained  to  increasing  efficiency  in  a  division  that                                                                    
received substantially more general  funds than money it was                                                                    
bringing back  in. He did  not claim that the  Department of                                                                    
Natural  Resources  (DNR)  believed   the  change  would  be                                                                    
simple, but it had indicated that  it could make it work. He                                                                    
acknowledged  that  the  shift   would  be  challenging.  He                                                                    
planned to monitor the change over the interim.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki supported  the  amendment, but  did                                                                    
not  believe  the amendment  went  far  enough to  restoring                                                                    
DNR's ability  to make the  sales possible for  many people.                                                                    
He  had   been  told  the   decrease  in  funds   would  not                                                                    
necessarily impact the Tanana  Valley State Forest. However,                                                                    
according to  the state forester,  the level of  service and                                                                    
the pace of  sales auctions would be  impacted because there                                                                    
would  be  a reduction  in  state  foresters from  a  region                                                                    
stretching from  Tok to  Kantishna. He  spoke to  impacts to                                                                    
the Interior,  the potential loss  of the  forester position                                                                    
in  Delta and  other  statewide  forest planning  positions.                                                                    
Additionally,  personal use  firewood sales  particularly in                                                                    
Fairbanks and over the counter  sales would have significant                                                                    
trouble. He noted that DNR was a money maker for the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler spoke  in support  of the  amendment. He                                                                    
believed  the  reduction  was  necessary,  responsible,  and                                                                    
intelligent given the state's financial challenges.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 15 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:36:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 16:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman, Thompson & Pruitt                                                                      
     (for Rep. Colver)                                                                                                          
     DEPARTMENT: Department of Natural Resources                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION:   Fire   Suppression,   Land   &   Water                                                                    
     Resources                                                                                                                  
     ALLOCATION:   Fire   Suppression   Preparedness,   Fire                                                                    
     Suppression Activity                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     TRANSFER:  Transfer the  Fire Suppression  Preparedness                                                                    
     allocation  ($1,486.6 Fed,  $15,984.5  UGF, $398.9  I/A                                                                    
     Rcpts,  $850.8  CIP  Rcpts, 200  PCNs)  from  the  Fire                                                                    
     Suppression   appropriation  to   the   Land  &   Water                                                                    
     Resources appropriation. Transfer  the Fire Suppression                                                                    
     Activity  allocation  ($11,960.4   Fed,  $6,659.1  UGF,                                                                    
     $1,500.0  Other,  0  PCNs) from  the  Fire  Suppression                                                                    
     appropriation   to   the   Land   &   Water   Resources                                                                    
     appropriation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   This   amendment  transfers   the   Fire                                                                    
     Suppression Preparedness and  Fire Suppression Activity                                                                    
     allocations   into   the   Land   &   Water   Resources                                                                    
     appropriation.  These two  allocations  and the  Forest                                                                    
     Management  &   Development  allocation  make   up  the                                                                    
     Division of  Forestry. Consolidating the  division into                                                                    
     a  single  appropriation would  facilitate  cooperative                                                                    
     efforts  and eliminate  the need  for  RSAs within  the                                                                    
     division,  reducing the  administrative  burden on  the                                                                    
     department.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt discussed  the  backstory behind  the                                                                    
development   of  the   amendment.  He   relayed  that   the                                                                    
Legislative  Finance Division  thought  the amendment  could                                                                    
potentially create some efficiencies.  He explained that the                                                                    
amendment would  transfer the Fire  Suppression Preparedness                                                                    
and Fire Suppression Activity allocations  into the Land and                                                                    
Water Resources appropriation.  The transfer would eliminate                                                                    
some  of  the paperwork  passing  between  the entities.  He                                                                    
spoke  to   the  importance  of  ensuring   that  the  money                                                                    
appropriated to fire suppression remained in suppression.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  noted that  the  amendment  would not  add                                                                    
funds and  the ability  to track  funds through  the program                                                                    
would be preserved.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg OBJECTED. He  spoke to his concern                                                                    
that fire  suppression and land and  water resources offered                                                                    
two distinct  functions. He was  concerned about  losing the                                                                    
ability  for  rapid  fire   suppression  response  time.  He                                                                    
questioned whether transferring  fire suppression would blur                                                                    
the ability to rapidly respond to fires.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman answered that DNR was neutral on the                                                                            
amendment. He read from the amendment explanation:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     This   amendment   transfers   the   Fire   Suppression                                                                    
     Preparedness and Fire  Suppression Activity allocations                                                                    
     into the  Land &  Water Resources  appropriation. These                                                                    
     two   allocations   and   the   Forest   Management   &                                                                    
     Development   allocation  make   up  the   Division  of                                                                    
     Forestry.  Consolidating  the  division into  a  single                                                                    
     appropriation would facilitate  cooperative efforts and                                                                    
     eliminate  the  need  for  RSAs  within  the  division,                                                                    
     reducing the administrative burden on the department.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman added that based on the explanation the                                                                         
amendment would decrease the administrative burden on the                                                                       
department; therefore, speed would increase.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman and Representative Guttenberg WITHDREW                                                                          
their OBJECTIONS. There being NO further OBJECTION,                                                                             
Amendment 16 was ADOPTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:41:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 17:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Reps. Neuman and Thompson                                                                                      
     AMEND THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 6.  PERSONAL SERVICES TRANSFERS. It  is the intent                                                                    
     of the legislature that  agencies restrict transfers to                                                                    
     and from the  personal services line. It  is the intent                                                                    
     of the  legislature that the  office of  management and                                                                    
     budget submit a report to  the house and senate finance                                                                    
     committees  [Legislature]  on  January 15,  2016,  that                                                                    
     describes and  justifies all transfers to  and from the                                                                    
     personal  services line  by  executive branch  agencies                                                                    
     during the  first half of  the fiscal year  ending June                                                                    
     30, 2016, and  submit a report to the  house and senate                                                                    
     finance  committees [Legislature]  on October  1, 2016,                                                                    
     that describes and justifies all  transfers to and from                                                                    
     the   personal  services   line  by   executive  branch                                                                    
     agencies  for the  entire fiscal  year ending  June 30,                                                                    
     2016.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This amendment clarifies that OMB will                                                                        
     need to submit the personal services transfers report                                                                      
     to the house and senate finance committees.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  explained   that  the  amendment  directed                                                                    
budget  related reports  from the  Office of  Management and                                                                    
Budget  to  be   sent  to  the  House   and  Senate  Finance                                                                    
Committees  instead of  the Senate  President and  the House                                                                    
Speaker.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                        
further OBJECTION, Amendment 17 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:41:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 18 [Note: see                                                                       
copy on file for detailed explanations]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Reps. Neuman, Thompson, Saddler and Munoz                                                                      
     DEPARTMENT: Legislature                                                                                                    
     APPROPRIATION: Legislative Council                                                                                         
     ALLOCATION: Administrative Services                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $681,500 General Fund (1004)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Juvenile Justice                                                                                            
     ALLOCATION: Youth Courts                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $530,900 General Fund (1004)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Anchorage Campus                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $125,000 MHTAAR (1092)                                                                                                
     $125,000 General Fund (1004)                                                                                               
     1PFT, 2 PPT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE SECTION                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. XX. LEGISLATIVE INTENT LANGUAGE RELATING TO                                                                           
     REDUCING                                                                                                                   
     ALASKA RECIDIVISM: It is the intent of the legislature                                                                     
     that the Department of Corrections, Department of                                                                          
     Health  and Social  Services, Department  of Labor  and                                                                    
     Workforce  Development,  Alaska   Mental  Health  Trust                                                                    
     Authority, Alaska  Housing Finance  Corporation, Alaska                                                                    
     Criminal  Justice Commission,  and Alaska  Court System                                                                    
     continue  to   work  collaboratively  to   implement  a                                                                    
     recidivism   reduction    plan   using   evidence-based                                                                    
     practices  for the  purpose of  slowing Alaska's  three                                                                    
     percent prison  population growth  rate and  reduce its                                                                    
     63 percent recidivism rate.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The above-identified  state agencies shall  continue to                                                                    
     engage  in  and  support meaningful  consultation  with                                                                    
     Alaska  Native  entities  on the  design,  content  and                                                                    
     operation  of  the  Alaska   Justice  system  with  the                                                                    
     purpose  of reducing  the overrepresentation  of Alaska                                                                    
     Native people  in this system. Further,  these entities                                                                    
     shall work together to:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     1.  Analyze  the  state's   criminal  justice  data  to                                                                    
     identify the  factors driving  Alaska's rate  of prison                                                                    
     population growth;                                                                                                         
     2. Identify evidence-based  or promising practices that                                                                    
     will address each of those factors; and                                                                                    
     3.  Outline  a  plan  for the  implementation  of  each                                                                    
     proposed practice that:                                                                                                    
          a. identifies the service or treatment program                                                                        
          proposed;                                                                                                             
          b. identifies the number of inmates or returning                                                                      
          citizens to be served; and                                                                                            
          c. includes a five  consecutive year, beginning in                                                                    
          FY  2017, phased-in  outline of  the programs  and                                                                    
          services  to  be  implemented  and  the  cost  per                                                                    
          fiscal year.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  implementation  plan shall  include  effectiveness                                                                    
     and  efficiency measures  addressing,  but not  limited                                                                    
     to:                                                                                                                        
     1.  Recidivism  rates and  cost  per  client served  of                                                                    
     current practices and programs;                                                                                            
     2.  Recidivism  rates and  cost  per  client served  of                                                                    
     proposed practices and programs;                                                                                           
     3. Quality assurances;                                                                                                     
     4. Fidelity to the model assurances; and                                                                                   
     5. projected savings to the State of Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  draft implementation  plan described  herein shall                                                                    
     be delivered to the Office  of Management and Budget by                                                                    
     September  30,  2015  so  it   can  be  considered  for                                                                    
     inclusion   in  the   Governor's  FYI   7  budget   and                                                                    
     legislative  proposals. The  final implementation  plan                                                                    
     shall be  delivered to the  legislature by  January 22,                                                                    
     2016.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  explained   the  four-stage  amendment.                                                                    
First,  it   would  cut  approximately  $680,000   from  the                                                                    
legislature's  budget   (due  to   increased  efficiencies);                                                                    
$530,900  of the  funds would  be transferred  to the  Youth                                                                    
Court. He referred to public  testimony on the Youth Court's                                                                    
ability to  reduce youth recidivism and  youth offences. The                                                                    
remainder of  the funds in  addition to a  contribution from                                                                    
Mental Health  Trust Funds and  GF ($125,000 each)  would go                                                                    
towards funding  an Alaska Justice Information  Center under                                                                    
the University of Alaska Anchorage.  The center would enable                                                                    
the compilation  of information to  inform a  Smart Justice-                                                                    
type  initiative  in cooperation  with  the  Pew Trust.  The                                                                    
initiative would  provide the state access  to the expertise                                                                    
and  cost-benefit   modeling  offered  by  the   Pew  Trust.                                                                    
Finally,  the  amendment  included  language  declaring  the                                                                    
intent  of the  legislature that  the state  coordinate with                                                                    
departments to  generate and monitor recidivism  in order to                                                                    
comply with Pew Trust requirements.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   elaborated  on  the   state's  recidivism                                                                    
reduction  plan. He  spoke to  work done  the prior  year to                                                                    
reduce recidivism.  He remarked that  currently correctional                                                                    
facilities were at 101 percent.  He stressed that additional                                                                    
work was needed to reduce  the number of people entering the                                                                    
correctional system.  He discussed that the  amendment would                                                                    
allow the state to partner  with Pew Trust results. He noted                                                                    
that Texas  had worked with  Pew Trust to reduce  the number                                                                    
of  individuals   entering  the  correctional   system.  The                                                                    
amendment would add $125,000 GF  to match $125,000 in Mental                                                                    
Health Trust Funds. The goal  was to considerably reduce the                                                                    
recidivism rate, which was currently 63 percent.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  spoke  in support  of  the  second                                                                    
component of  the amendment and expressed  uncertainty about                                                                    
the remaining  components. He asked if  the sponsor intended                                                                    
to make sure the GF deletion  was roughly the same as the GF                                                                    
addition.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler replied in the affirmative.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki referred to  the explanation for the                                                                    
deletion $681,500  from the  legislature's budget.  He spoke                                                                    
to  a new  legislative  building  in Anchorage  [Legislative                                                                    
Information Office] that would  cost significantly more than                                                                    
it had in the past.  He mentioned another building purchased                                                                    
by the legislature in recent  years that would cost more. He                                                                    
wondered  what  the  efficiencies and  cost  reductions  may                                                                    
mean.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman believed that the  Masonic building had been                                                                    
paid  for.  He noted  that  the  increment represented  a  5                                                                    
percent  reduction  to  the legislature's  appropriation  to                                                                    
Legislative Council.  He noted that  considerable reductions                                                                    
to  the legislature's  budget were  expected throughout  the                                                                    
budgetary process. He noted that  funds were included in the                                                                    
legislature's budget  in anticipation  of a  special session                                                                    
to move  gasline discussions forward.  He spoke to  costs of                                                                    
special   session   including  clerks,   Legislative   Legal                                                                    
Services,  Legislative  Finance Division,  consultants,  and                                                                    
other. He explained  that any extra funds  would be returned                                                                    
to  the  general fund;  the  legislature  did not  have  the                                                                    
ability to  come back  for a  supplemental. Also  funded was                                                                    
Legislative Council,  Legislative Budget and Audit,  and all                                                                    
other legislative components.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt thanked  the  chairs  for taking  his                                                                    
concerns  into  account   pertaining  to  the  legislature's                                                                    
budget, specifically related  to increasing efficiencies and                                                                    
applying  the  funds  to  some  of  the  important  services                                                                    
statewide  (e.g. Youth  Court and  recidivism). He  believed                                                                    
there  were  significant  opportunities to  save  the  state                                                                    
money and to put people back to work.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:48:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  liked the  first few portions  of the                                                                    
amendment.  She   spoke  to  efficiencies  created   in  the                                                                    
legislature's budget. She remarked  that the legislature was                                                                    
cutting other  budgets and would locate  efficiencies in its                                                                    
own.  She commented  on  youth court  and  its success.  She                                                                    
noted that  the City of  Wasilla sponsored the  Mat-Su Youth                                                                    
Court  and had  done a  great job.  She believed  there were                                                                    
significant savings resulting from  catching kids at a young                                                                    
age.  She spoke  to recidivism  and a  Pew Trust  report and                                                                    
noted that  the state would get  a large bang for  its buck.                                                                    
She believed it would benefit the state.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Gara, Kawasaki, Gattis, Guttenberg, Wilson,                                                                     
Edgmon, and Pruitt requested to add their names as                                                                              
cosponsors to Amendment 18.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                          
further OBJECTION, Amendment 18 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:50:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 19:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED   BY:  Representatives   Neuman  and   Thompson                                                                    
     (Governor's request)                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Labor Standards & Safety                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION: Occupational Safety & Health                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:   $300,000   Workers'  Safety   and   Compensation                                                                    
     Administration Account (WSCAA) (1157)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This increases  designated general  funds                                                                    
     (DGF) in the Occupational  Safety and Health (AKOSH) to                                                                    
     offset a corresponding  unrestricted general fund (UGF)                                                                    
     reduction.  The  subcommittee   reduced  the  UGF  that                                                                    
     supports  AKOSH activities  by $759,600,  and increased                                                                    
     the DGF  (WSCAA) supporting AKOSH  by $459,600  to help                                                                    
     offset  a portion  of the  UGF  reduction. Recent  fund                                                                    
     projections  demonstrate there  is  a sufficient  WSCAA                                                                    
     fund balance  to offset the entire  UGF decrease, which                                                                    
     will allow  AKOSH to  continue the  extremely effective                                                                    
     workplace safety consultation  activities that this UGF                                                                    
     previously supported.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     With this funding, the  AKOSH consultation and training                                                                    
     team  has  developed   a  seafood  processing  training                                                                    
     course in partnership with a  major seafood producer in                                                                    
     Alaska to increase workforce  training and awareness of                                                                    
     hazards common to the  seafood processing industry. The                                                                    
     seafood  industry has  historically experienced  a high                                                                    
     rate of lost time  accidents; to respond, AKOSH focused                                                                    
     additional efforts on training  these workers. Not only                                                                    
     does   this  training   provide  awareness   about  the                                                                    
     hazards,  but   it  provides  awareness   necessary  to                                                                    
     develop  a  positive  culture  about  workplace  safety                                                                    
     within  the  workforce.  This additional  training  and                                                                    
     consultation  is a  key reason  why Alaska's  workplace                                                                    
     injury  rate dropped  to a  historic low  in FY2014.  A                                                                    
     $300,000  cut  to AKOSH  will  impact  the delivery  of                                                                    
     consultation  and training  services to  private sector                                                                    
     employers  and workers  across  Alaska. These  services                                                                    
     help reduce workplace accidents  and would be curtailed                                                                    
     by the subcommittee reduction.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  explained that the amendment  had come at                                                                    
the governor's request. He explained  that the [DLWD] budget                                                                    
subcommittee  had   reduced  the  GF  spending   for  Alaska                                                                    
Occupational  Safety  and   Health  by  $759,600,  replacing                                                                    
$459,600    with    Workers'   Safety    and    Compensation                                                                    
Administration  Account (WSCAA)  funds.  He elaborated  that                                                                    
subsequently it  had been  determined that  sufficient funds                                                                    
remained in  the WSCAA  to offset  the entire  UGF decrease.                                                                    
The amendment  would restore  the $300,000  cut back  to the                                                                    
WSCAA. He  spoke to the  importance of the program  that had                                                                    
been proven  to reduce  injuries, especially in  the seafood                                                                    
industry. He noted that no GF were included.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  appreciated that  the funds  had been                                                                    
located.  She hoped  the department  would go  to industries                                                                    
that were  also saving money  due to the programs  being put                                                                    
together. She  asked to have  her name added as  a cosponsor                                                                    
to the amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  believed the intent was  to reduce workers'                                                                    
compensation rates within the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 19 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 20:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Munoz, Neuman and Thompson                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Business Partnerships                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Construction Academy Training                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $2,504,200 General Fund 1004                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  amendment would  restore 80%  of the                                                                    
     funding  for the  Construction  Academy  to allow  this                                                                    
     program to  continue to train  young people  and adults                                                                    
     for  employment  and  apprenticeship  programs  in  the                                                                    
     high-demand  construction   and  trade   industry.  The                                                                    
     construction  industry requires  an  estimated 700  new                                                                    
     workers every  year to  keep up  with demand.  The high                                                                    
     demand for a construction workforce  is driven by 1) an                                                                    
     aging workforce; 2) job growth  in the industry; and 3)                                                                    
     a desire  to reduce Alaska's dependence  on nonresident                                                                    
     workers.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
restore  $2,504,200 GF  to the  Alaska Construction  Academy                                                                    
programs.  She  elaborated that  the  funding  paid for  ten                                                                    
programs  across  the  state  for  adults  and  high  school                                                                    
students. She detailed that training  was in mining, oil and                                                                    
gas, maritime,  building, transportation,  and construction.                                                                    
She  expounded that  2,100 adults  had been  trained through                                                                    
the  funds over  the  past seven  years;  between 1,500  and                                                                    
3,000  students  had been  trained  through  the Career  and                                                                    
Technical  Education funds  over  the past  four years.  The                                                                    
amendment  funded 80  percent of  the  previously funded  GF                                                                    
portions of the two programs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson reiterated  that  the  state did  not                                                                    
have  the  money.  She  acknowledged   the  benefit  of  the                                                                    
program,  but  stressed that  the  state  did not  have  the                                                                    
money. She  thought it  was a problem  that the  program did                                                                    
not  charge  for training.  She  noted  that the  state  was                                                                    
asking training  schools to  charge; the  university charged                                                                    
for similar classes. She referred  to other programs such as                                                                    
the State  Training Employment Program. She  believed unions                                                                    
and businesses could put funding  in. She was concerned that                                                                    
the  state was  competing against  other programs  it funded                                                                    
for  the same  children. She  was not  speaking against  the                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  stated that  it  was  important to  be                                                                    
pound  wise  and   not  penny  foolish.  He   spoke  to  the                                                                    
difference between a $3.5 billion  and a $3.4 billion budget                                                                    
(the governor's proposed budget  compared to the committee's                                                                    
proposed budget).  He disputed  that the  committee's budget                                                                    
was getting the state's financial  house in order. He stated                                                                    
that there  was currently  no bill  or budget  proposal that                                                                    
would get the  state's house in order. He  remarked that the                                                                    
state was  running out of savings  in the next two  to three                                                                    
years. He believed the difference  was negligible. He opined                                                                    
that cutting  job training programs  in a state that  was on                                                                    
pace to  lose 2,000 jobs in  the current year was  not wise.                                                                    
He remarked that  the amendment did not restore  the full $3                                                                    
million  subcommittee  cut.  He  appreciated  the  sponsor's                                                                    
intent.  He supported  the restoration  of the  construction                                                                    
academies.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:57:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  disputed   that  the  difference  in                                                                    
budgets  was  insignificant.  He   noted  that  he  did  not                                                                    
necessarily agree  with the fact  that the state  was paying                                                                    
for the  construction programs. He stated  that the programs                                                                    
competed with  the University  and private  sector entities.                                                                    
However, he  supported the amendment because  he appreciated                                                                    
that  the sponsor  was willing  to work  with a  "step down"                                                                    
approach  (80 percent  instead of  full  funding). He  noted                                                                    
another   amendment   would   follow  that   continued   the                                                                    
discussion,  which  would  allow  the  opportunity  to  give                                                                    
notice to  the programs  that they  needed to  begin raising                                                                    
their own money.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  was  happy  to  see  80  percent                                                                    
restoration, but was  unhappy that it was  not a restoration                                                                    
of  100 percent.  He stressed  the  importance of  workforce                                                                    
training.   He   elaborated   that   the   programs   guided                                                                    
individuals  into high-skilled  jobs. He  remarked that  the                                                                    
state should  just come  out and  say it if  the it  was not                                                                    
going to train Alaskans for jobs  in Alaska. He spoke to the                                                                    
state's  resource   development  goals  and  the   need  for                                                                    
workers.  He  stated  that   many  private  sector  training                                                                    
programs  were  not  good  deals for  students  due  to  the                                                                    
expense. He  elaborated that  some students  left University                                                                    
programs as  soon as they got  the job they wanted  in their                                                                    
field   of  study.   He  discussed   the  goal   of  putting                                                                    
individuals  on  track to  do  the  jobs; there  were  2,000                                                                    
replacement jobs  per year  in the oil  and gas  industry in                                                                    
Alaska. He stressed that the  training programs had all been                                                                    
in place  for years. He stated  that if the program  did not                                                                    
put  qualified  youth  and people  into  the  positions  the                                                                    
programs  would not  be supported.  He underscored  that the                                                                    
issue was  about putting  Alaskans to  work. He  stated that                                                                    
the programs did not turn  out journeymen level electricians                                                                    
and pipe  welders; but the  programs put people on  track to                                                                    
become  those  things later  on.  He  reasoned that  as  the                                                                    
budget  contracted  the  legislature   would  need  to  look                                                                    
increasingly  at the  things  the state  wanted  to do,  but                                                                    
contractors  had  pressure  to  hire  Alaskans  because  the                                                                    
legislature applied  the pressure.  He emphasized  that cuts                                                                    
to the programs  would stop training for  Alaskans. He noted                                                                    
that he would  support the amendment, but  would not support                                                                    
the subsequent one.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman spoke in support  of the amendment. He spoke                                                                    
to his personal  experience making a living  with his hands.                                                                    
He shared  that he  had served  on the  board of  the Alaska                                                                    
Construction Academy.  He detailed that the  program reached                                                                    
many youth and adults that  generally did not have access to                                                                    
the opportunities;  the program  opened up  opportunities to                                                                    
introduce individuals  to different trades. He  noted that 8                                                                    
to 9  percent of high  school students in Alaska  attended a                                                                    
four-year college  program. He believed it  was important to                                                                    
provide  opportunities  for  the  rest of  Alaskans  and  to                                                                    
introduce them to trades.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson MAINTAINED her OBJECTION.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Saddler,   Edgmon,   Gara,   Gattis,   Guttenberg,                                                                    
Kawasaki, Munoz, Pruitt, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                       
OPPOSED: Wilson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (10/1). Amendment 20 was ADOPTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 21:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Neuman, Thompson                                                                                               
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Business Partnerships                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Construction Academy Training                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD INTENT:  It is the  intent of the  legislature that                                                                    
     the department  implement a  plan to  annually supplant                                                                    
     $600,000 of general funds with  private or federal fund                                                                    
     sources   until,   after   a  five-year   period,   the                                                                    
     Construction Academy  Training program uses  no general                                                                    
     funds.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  explained that the amendment  directed DLWD                                                                    
to implement a plan to  locate increased private funding for                                                                    
the  Construction Academy  Training  program. The  amendment                                                                    
specified that at the end  of a five-year period the program                                                                    
would use  no general  funds. He recalled  board discussions                                                                    
about working to develop more  [private funding]. Many other                                                                    
programs within  the state were  facing a similar  issue due                                                                    
to budget  reductions. He noted  that historically  when the                                                                    
state had been  flush with money it tended to  fill in holes                                                                    
in society. He  stressed that due to a lack  of money it was                                                                    
necessary for the state to  pull back. The remarked that the                                                                    
state would  expect private industry  and individuals  to do                                                                    
more. The  amendment instructed the department  to implement                                                                    
a plan to  annually supplant $600,000 of  general funds with                                                                    
private or federal  fund sources until the end  of the five-                                                                    
year period.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:07:35 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:07:48 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   believed  the  $600,000  figure   in  the                                                                    
amendment was incorrect.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:08:09 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:08:25 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  explained  that  he intent  was  that  the                                                                    
amount in  the amendment  would be  near $600,000.  He noted                                                                    
that the  figure would change  [as other funds  were brought                                                                    
in].                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson stated  that the  issue was  not just                                                                    
about  the  money. She  reported  that  there had  been  two                                                                    
presentations given  by the Alaska Construction  Academy and                                                                    
the committee  had not received  the statistics  it desired.                                                                    
The committee had been told  how many students participated,                                                                    
but not  what kind of  training had resulted.  She explained                                                                    
that  it  was  not  just  about  the  money,  it  was  about                                                                    
accountability. She  questioned whether  it was  the mission                                                                    
of DLWD to  put people back to work or  obtain better paying                                                                    
jobs.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler expressed  that it  was his  desire that                                                                    
the  focus of  money spent  by the  program focused  more on                                                                    
adults.   He  believed   young   students  had   significant                                                                    
opportunities.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg OBJECTED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis, Kawasaki,  Munoz, Pruitt,                                                                    
Saddler, Thompson, Neuman, Gara                                                                                                 
OPPOSED: Guttenberg                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (10/1). Amendment 21 was ADOPTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:12:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  MOVED to  ADOPT Amendment 22  (copy on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz explained  that the  DLWD commissioner                                                                    
had  provided an  explanation  on  the Interpreter  Referral                                                                    
Line program.  She detailed that there  were 10 interpreters                                                                    
in Fairbanks  and Juneau and  their services  would continue                                                                    
to  be  available to  the  public.  Therefore, she  WITHDREW                                                                    
Amendment 22.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 23:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Edgmon                                                                                                    
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Business Partnerships                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Southwest Alaska Vocational and Education                                                                      
     Center Operations Grant                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $78,700 General Fund (1004)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Alaska Technical Center                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $265,000 General Fund (1004)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Northwest Alaska Career and Technical                                                                          
     Center                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $173,000 General Fund (1004)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: The  CS removed all of  the general funds,                                                                    
     $1,099,400, from the  three allocations. This amendment                                                                    
     restores  $516,  700.  This  amendment  would  increase                                                                    
     funds for                                                                                                                  
        · Southwest Alaska Vocational and Education Center                                                                      
          from $375,300 to $454,000;                                                                                            
        · Alaska Technical Center from $1,126,000 to                                                                            
          $1,391,000; and                                                                                                       
        · Northwest Alaska Career and Technical Center from                                                                     
          $375,300 to $548,300.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
partially restore  reductions in UGF that  would normally be                                                                    
appropriated to three out of  four regional training centers                                                                    
in  Western   Alaska.  He  estimated  the   restoration  was                                                                    
approximately 40  to 45 percent  of the  original governor's                                                                    
appropriation. He  contended that there  was a right  way to                                                                    
downsize  and   another  way   to  dismantle   programs.  He                                                                    
discussed that  if the  total funding  was removed  from the                                                                    
three training  centers, the  programs would  be set  on the                                                                    
pathway  towards  being  dismantled. He  detailed  that  the                                                                    
Southwest Vocational  Technical Center in King  Salmon would                                                                    
have to lay  off two of its five employees  if the amendment                                                                    
did not  pass. He elaborated  that the center had  done many                                                                    
positive  things and  was partnering  with  the Bristol  Bay                                                                    
Economic  Development  Corporation  with   a  focus  on  the                                                                    
seafood industry. He communicated  that the Alaska Technical                                                                    
Center in  Kotzebue was a newly  renovated regional training                                                                    
center  that   offered  housing,   a  culinary   section,  a                                                                    
healthcare training facility, and  provided training for the                                                                    
Red Dog  Mine; the Northwest  Arctic Borough and  others had                                                                    
been working closely on keeping  a local workforce in place.                                                                    
He believed the center would  play an important role for the                                                                    
Ambler mining  district when it  came online in  the future.                                                                    
He  discussed  that  the  Nome   facility  focused  more  on                                                                    
secondary  students;  390  students  had  gone  through  the                                                                    
facility the  prior year. He  asserted that the  Nome region                                                                    
was a potential staging area  for the opening of the Arctic.                                                                    
He  would like  to see  full  funding restored,  but in  the                                                                    
spirit   of  compromise   he  recognized   that  a   partial                                                                    
restoration of funds was better than no restoration.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:15:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson thanked the  sponsor and the operators                                                                    
of the three  schools for working with her.  She referred to                                                                    
great  information that  had been  provided. She  noted that                                                                    
the  Nome center  catered to  high school  students and  was                                                                    
expanding its  healthcare industry training. She  noted that                                                                    
the center  had more  equipment to  offer adult  training as                                                                    
well. She  encouraged members to support  the amendment. She                                                                    
elaborated  that  the schools  needed  the  funding and  she                                                                    
planned to help them look for other funding sources.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 23 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:17:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 24:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Edgmon                                                                                                    
     DEPARTMENT:    Commerce,    Community   and    Economic                                                                    
     Development                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Community and Regional Affairs                                                                              
     ALLOCATION: Community and Regional Affairs                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $100,000 UGF (1004)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This amendment adds back $100,000 of the                                                                      
     $200,000 subcommittee reduction to the Alaska Legal                                                                        
     Services grant. The grant amount will now be $450,000.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Edgmon   explained   that   the   amendment                                                                    
partially restored  $100,000 of the $200,000  reduction that                                                                    
took  place at  the  Department of  Commerce, Community  and                                                                    
Economic Development  (DCCED) subcommittee level  for Alaska                                                                    
Legal  Services.  He detailed  that  with  no reduction  the                                                                    
agency  would have  received $550,000  in  state funds  that                                                                    
would be matched by other  revenue sources. He believed that                                                                    
the program  stretched state dollars farther  than any other                                                                    
entity or  program in  the state;  it provided  a tremendous                                                                    
amount  of  legal work  helping  families  deal with  crisis                                                                    
(i.e. domestic  violence, foreclosures,  evictions), writing                                                                    
wills, lack of access to  healthcare, and other. He believed                                                                    
the amendment represented a good compromise.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 24 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:18:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 25:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman, Thompson, Edgmon                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Alaska Library and Museums                                                                                  
     ALLOCATION: Online with Libraries (OWL)                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $761,800  Alaska Higher Education  Investment Fund                                                                    
     (1226)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  It   is  the  intent  of   the  legislature  that                                                                    
     libraries   utilizing  Online   with  Libraries   (OWL)                                                                    
     establish a fee  structure that covers the  cost of OWL                                                                    
     in FY2017.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   This  amendment   restores  the   amount                                                                    
     requested  in   the  Governor's  Amended   Budget,  but                                                                    
     replaces  general  funds  with money  from  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Higher  Education  Investment  Fund.  This  program  is                                                                    
     aligned  with  the  mission  of  the  Higher  Education                                                                    
     Investment Fund  because it  enables students  in rural                                                                    
     areas  to  take distance  classes  and  tests that  are                                                                    
     needed for the Alaska Performance Scholarship program.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
fully restore  the Online with Libraries  (OWL) program. The                                                                    
funding allowed  community facilities  (primarily libraries)                                                                    
to  leverage  federal dollars  10  to  1. He  detailed  that                                                                    
broadband accessibility  in the state's  smaller communities                                                                    
was sometimes virtually nonexistent.  He elaborated that the                                                                    
library  was the  one place  that  people could  go to  [for                                                                    
internet service];  libraries provided valuable  service for                                                                    
seasonal  workers  in the  seafood  industry  and other.  He                                                                    
believed it  was a  wise investment. He  added that  much of                                                                    
the state's  future was tied  to broadband;  particularly in                                                                    
rural areas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  agreed that the program  was good for                                                                    
libraries. She  relayed that she  and the  amendment sponsor                                                                    
had discussed  the goal of  establishing a fee  schedule for                                                                    
FY 17  that covered the  cost of  the program. She  spoke to                                                                    
potential opportunities  to make money for  the program. She                                                                    
furthered that  the amendment sponsor had  discussed fishing                                                                    
industry  employees  who used  the  services  in the  summer                                                                    
months;  they had  discussed the  possibility  of selling  a                                                                    
library card to  the individuals. She requested  to have her                                                                    
name added as a cosponsor of the amendment.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representatives  Gara,   Kawasaki,  Guttenberg,   and  Munoz                                                                    
requested to be added as cosponsors to the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked   for  verification  that  the                                                                    
amendment did not increase UGF spending.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman replied  that the  funding would  come from                                                                    
the  Alaska Higher  Education  Fund and  no  UGF funds  were                                                                    
added.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki  asked   if   the  Alaska   Higher                                                                    
Education Fund  was solvent. He  wanted to ensure  the money                                                                    
could be used without jeopardizing other programs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  replied in  the affirmative.  He elaborated                                                                    
that  the fund  had  been created  by  former Governor  Sean                                                                    
Parnell to assist  students who had done well  in school. He                                                                    
shared  that the  fund  had performed  well  in the  current                                                                    
year; there was some "spinoff"  that did not affect the core                                                                    
of the  fund or  the available funds  for other  students to                                                                    
receive a higher  education. He noted that  the sponsors had                                                                    
carefully checked the programs  supplanted by funds from the                                                                    
account  to  ensure  they fell  within  the  boundaries  and                                                                    
qualifications.  He  stated  that   the  account  was  fully                                                                    
functional and  was not  affected by  the reductions  due to                                                                    
its positive investment performance.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:23:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler spoke in support  of public libraries. He                                                                    
stated that  online library access and  broadband were force                                                                    
multipliers and  helped to  keep libraries  vibrant learning                                                                    
centers.  He  asked  to  be  added as  a  cosponsor  to  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki noted  that the  amendment's intent                                                                    
language discussed  the establishing of a  fee structure. He                                                                    
observed  that there  were numerous  participating libraries                                                                    
across the  state. He believed  there were many  urban areas                                                                    
using  OWL  that  could potentially  absorb  a  decrease  in                                                                    
funding;  however, he  would hate  to see  rural communities                                                                    
without a tax base try to  come up with enough money to fund                                                                    
their share.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Edgmon   believed  the   federal   matching                                                                    
component prohibited  any kind  of fee structure.  He agreed                                                                    
with  Representative   Kawasaki  about  creative   ways  for                                                                    
communities to  come forward in  the future. He  opined that                                                                    
by   providing  the   funding  in   the  current   year  the                                                                    
communities  would be  given additional  time to  search out                                                                    
other opportunities. He believed the approach was fair.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  noted  that  some of  the  discussion  had                                                                    
included  solutions  such as  offering  a  library pass  for                                                                    
purchase.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Wilson and Guttenberg  requested to be added                                                                    
as cosponsors to the amendment.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being NO further OBJECTION, Amendment 25 was ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:26:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 26:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman, Thompson                                                                               
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Student and School Achievement                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $525,000 General Funds, 1004                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $525,000 Alaska Higher Education Investment Fund,                                                                     
     1226                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  fund source  change for  the College                                                                    
     and   Career  Readiness   Assessment   (SAT,  ACT,   or                                                                    
     WorkKeys)  is  aligned  with the  goal  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Higher  Education  Investment  Fund  and  supports  the                                                                    
     Alaska Performance  Scholarship program.  Students must                                                                    
     take one of these tests to be eligible for an Alaska                                                                       
     Performance Scholarship.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  explained  that the  amendment  supplanted                                                                    
$525,000 in GF  with funds from the  Alaska Higher Education                                                                    
Investment  Fund. He  detailed that  the fund  source change                                                                    
was aligned  with the goals  of the Alaska  Higher Education                                                                    
Investment  Fund   and  supported  the   Alaska  Performance                                                                    
Scholarship.  He discussed  that students  were required  to                                                                    
take  one  of  the  tests  [SAT, ACT,  or  WorkKeys]  to  be                                                                    
eligible for the scholarship.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  appreciated the amendment.  She spoke                                                                    
to legislation  that had passed through  the House Education                                                                    
Committee.  The amendment  "essentially gets  us through  so                                                                    
that these kids that we can fund for these tests."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Thompson  clarified   that   the  Alaska   Higher                                                                    
Education Investment  Fund held approximately  $436 million.                                                                    
He explained  that the funds  used by the amendment  did not                                                                    
reduce the principal of the account.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara expressed  concern that three amendments                                                                    
would take money from the  account that was supposed to fund                                                                    
scholarships. He  ascertained that  something would  need to                                                                    
be  done if  the fund  began disappearing  or the  state was                                                                    
unable to provide students with  funds needed for vocational                                                                    
and  higher education  in the  state. He  remarked that  the                                                                    
fund was  already asked to spinoff  what he deemed to  be an                                                                    
unsustainable amount (7 percent  annually); most trust funds                                                                    
were asked to generate 4 to  5 percent. He noted that it had                                                                    
been a lucky stock market  year. He supported the amendment,                                                                    
but  if the  fund began  to dissipate  it would  need to  be                                                                    
replaced.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman understood the situation,  which was why the                                                                    
sponsors  had determined  the fund  would  not be  adversely                                                                    
affected.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked for  verification that  the three                                                                    
amendments  used  the  fund  source  indefinitely.  Co-Chair                                                                    
Neuman replied that the amendments  used the fund source for                                                                    
the current year.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis stated  that the  use of  funds would                                                                    
not continue if a bill was passed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 26 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:30:14 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:47:32 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 27:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY: Reps.  Neuman,  Thompson, Munoz,  Saddler,                                                                    
     Gattis & Edgmon                                                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT:   Department   of   Education   and   Early                                                                    
     Development                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Alaska Library and Museums                                                                                  
     ALLOCATION: Library Operations                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  $3,600,000  Alaska  Higher  Education  Investment                                                                    
     Fund (1226)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Currently  there  are 122  rural  schools                                                                    
     funded  through the  broadband program,  bringing these                                                                    
     schools up to the minimum of  1   OMB.    This   is   a                                                                    
     tremendous opportunity  for the  State to  leverage its                                                                    
     investment  at  a 4:  1  ratio  on a  statewide  basis,                                                                    
     meaning this  $3.6 million  can leverage  an additional                                                                    
     $14.4 million  in federal funding. Broadband  access is                                                                    
     critical  to  the  delivery  of  distance  courses  for                                                                    
     students  and teachers  in rural  areas to  improve the                                                                    
     quality  of education  and  increase graduation  rates.                                                                    
     This  amendment  uses  money  from  the  Alaska  Higher                                                                    
     Education   Investment   Fund   as  this   purpose   is                                                                    
     consistent with the goals of the fund.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
restore  $3.6 million  of  the $5  million  that the  budget                                                                    
subcommittee had  removed from the broadband  program. There                                                                    
were  currently   122  rural  schools  funded   through  the                                                                    
program.  He  explained   that  the  Federal  Communications                                                                    
Commission  had taken  special interest  in the  program and                                                                    
had increased target  speeds and the size of  the federal e-                                                                    
rate subsidies  available for the service.  He reasoned that                                                                    
broadband  was the  primary  tool of  the  21st century.  He                                                                    
believed   many   schools   were  finding   that   increased                                                                    
coursework  was  available  online   and  that  with  proper                                                                    
broadband  capability  rural  schools  had  the  ability  to                                                                    
download  presentations,  pictures,   video  tutorials,  and                                                                    
other.  Additionally, the  connectivity  would enable  rural                                                                    
schools to  stretch their limited  funds. He added  that the                                                                    
rural students  would have access to  the Alaska Performance                                                                    
Scholarship  due to  a  broadened  curriculum the  increased                                                                    
broadband would provide.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis spoke  in support  of the  amendment.                                                                    
She  shared that  the increment  had been  in the  education                                                                    
subcommittee  budget. She  relayed  that  she had  struggled                                                                    
with restoring  the increment; however,  the last  thing she                                                                    
wanted to  do was  "hog tie"  a large  portion of  Alaska by                                                                    
taking  away their  opportunity  to provide  education in  a                                                                    
different way.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg requested  to add  his name  as a                                                                    
cosponsor to  the amendment. He remarked  that broadband was                                                                    
"the road  we all travel."  He noted  that one of  the major                                                                    
problems in  Alaska had  been distances  between communities                                                                    
and the delivery of goods  and commodities. He reasoned that                                                                    
expanding   broadband   capabilities   across   the   state,                                                                    
especially in  libraries, was  a basic  infrastructure need.                                                                    
He stressed  that it  was needed  for daily  life, teaching,                                                                    
business, and  other. He discussed that  the broadband task-                                                                    
force  had  an  expensive  plan to  increase  speed  to  100                                                                    
megabits [per second]. He did not  know if the goal would be                                                                    
achieved, but  the state would  be driven in  the direction.                                                                    
He believed the  amendment represented a good  start for the                                                                    
libraries around the state.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   requested  to  add  his   name  as  a                                                                    
cosponsor to the amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 27 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:52:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 28:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representative Neuman, Thompson                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:   Department   of   Education   and   Early                                                                    
     Development                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Student and School Achievement                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
    DELETE: $1,000,000 Unrestricted General Funds, 1004                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  SERRC  was  granted  funds  for  a  pilot                                                                    
     Science,  Technology,   Engineering  and   Math  (STEM)                                                                    
     program through  the operating budget during  a time of                                                                    
     significant  budget surpluses.  This program  currently                                                                    
     serves 45  students at a  cost of close to  $22,000 per                                                                    
     student.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  explained that  the amendment  would delete                                                                    
$1 million  UGF from  Teaching and Learning  Support student                                                                    
and  school   achievement  for  the  SERRC   pilot  Science,                                                                    
Technology,  Engineering,   and  Math  (STEM)   program.  He                                                                    
relayed  that when  the pilot  program had  begun there  had                                                                    
been  more money  in  the budget.  He  believed the  program                                                                    
could  probably  be  worthwhile. He  communicated  that  the                                                                    
program  currently   served  45   students  at  a   cost  of                                                                    
approximately  $22,000 per  student. He  believed the  money                                                                    
needed to be used elsewhere in the budget.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  stated that  the pilot  program was                                                                    
almost through  the first year  of a  three-year commitment.                                                                    
He   discussed   that   STEM  program   administrators   had                                                                    
communicated that  the program could be  replicated and used                                                                    
in various  environments. He believed  it would be  hasty to                                                                    
end  a pilot  project when  one year  of data  was close  to                                                                    
complete.  He  preferred  to   see  the  program  completed,                                                                    
receive  a report,  and have  the ability  to duplicate  the                                                                    
project.  He spoke  against ending  pilot projects  prior to                                                                    
their completion.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:54:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis supported  the  amendment. She  noted                                                                    
that  there were  some great  programs with  good data.  She                                                                    
pointed  to  the  Alaska   Native  Science  and  Engineering                                                                    
Program  (ANSEP)  as an  example.  She  agreed that  the  $1                                                                    
million needed  to be  used elsewhere in  the budget  due to                                                                    
the  difficult  budget  environment. She  acknowledged  that                                                                    
STEM was a great program; however, she believed there was                                                                       
existing data for another successful program [ANSEP].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki OBJECTED.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Edgmon,    Gattis,   Pruitt,    Saddler,   Wilson,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 28 PASSED (7/4). Amendment 28                                                                     
was ADOPTED.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 29:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY:   Representatives  Neuman,   Thompson  and                                                                    
     Gattis                                                                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION:    Alaska     Postsecondary    Education                                                                    
     Commission                                                                                                                 
     ALLOCATION: WWAMI Medical Education                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:                                                                                                                    
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     department  begin  discontinuing   the  WWAMI  program.                                                                    
     After  the 2015  cohort  begins,  the department  shall                                                                    
     reduce the  number of students  accepted by  50 percent                                                                    
     annually.  The  number  of students  accepted  in  2016                                                                    
     shall be 10; 2017, 5  students; 2018, 2 students and no                                                                    
     new  students  in 2019.  The  funding  will be  reduced                                                                    
     accordingly for the reduced number of students.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
     It is  the intent  of the  legislature that  the Alaska                                                                    
     Postsecondary  Education  Commission   give  notice  of                                                                    
     termination  of the  WWAMI  agreement. The  termination                                                                    
     clause requires  a three  years' formal  written notice                                                                    
     to the other parties and  that no new students would be                                                                    
     admitted to the WWAMI program                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Any  party  of WWAMI  may  terminate  the                                                                    
     agreement  with  three  years' formal  written  notice.                                                                    
     This  language  serves  as   notice  to  terminate  the                                                                    
     program in three fiscal years.  No new students will be                                                                    
     admitted in 2017-19, and the program will be completed                                                                     
     at the end of FY20.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $1,482.4 General Fund (1004)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,482.4 Higher Education Investment Fund (1226)                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: The subcommittee changed  50 percent of WW                                                                    
     AMI  funding  from  the  general  fund  to  the  Higher                                                                    
     Education   Investment  Fund.   The   effect  of   this                                                                    
     amendment is  that 100 percent of  WWAMI's funding will                                                                    
    now come from the Higher Education Investment Fund.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gattis   explained   that   the   amendment                                                                    
recognized the  legislature's intent to  begin discontinuing                                                                    
the  WWAMI medical  program. She  detailed that  the program                                                                    
had a three-year  contract that could not  be undone without                                                                    
providing  notice.  She relayed  that  she  had met  with  a                                                                    
couple of doctors in her  district with positive ideas about                                                                    
how to  make improvements  in the  program. She  stated that                                                                    
the  amendment would  keep the  WWAMI  program whole,  while                                                                    
providing  intent  that  the   legislature  was  looking  at                                                                    
tightening the state's belt.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:57:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  did not  know how WWAMI  would work                                                                    
if its  agreement was  terminated. He  asked if  the program                                                                    
received  notice of  the intent  to terminate  the agreement                                                                    
could it be restored if something changed later on.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis replied  that  action to  discontinue                                                                    
the program  had not been  taken as  of yet. She  noted that                                                                    
there were doctors in the  community that were excited about                                                                    
participating.  She opined  that something  better could  be                                                                    
done. She was  uncertain that the current  WWAMI program was                                                                    
accomplishing  its  original  goal.   She  believed  it  was                                                                    
important  to  look at  what  hospitals  and doctors  really                                                                    
need, which she intended to research over the summer.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  testified in  support of  the amendment.                                                                    
He  spoke  about  a  physician   in  his  district  who  was                                                                    
associated with the  program.  He believed  it was important                                                                    
to  consider new  ways to  accomplish  healthcare goals.  He                                                                    
opined that  the old  ways were  not always  necessarily the                                                                    
best.  He thought  the amendment  was respectful  to current                                                                    
program participants and would allow  time to figure out how                                                                    
to move forward.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg   spoke  in  opposition   to  the                                                                    
amendment. He  had spoken to  the hospital  administrator in                                                                    
his  district   who  had  not  heard   about  the  potential                                                                    
discontinuation of the program;  the administrator could not                                                                    
believe the  program may  end. He  had heard  that residency                                                                    
programs were  cost-effective for  communities. He  spoke to                                                                    
the  success  of  the  WWAMI   program;  there  was  nothing                                                                    
comparable  in place.  He stated  that  it took  significant                                                                    
time  to educate  doctors.  He noted  that  the shortage  of                                                                    
doctors  in  Alaska   had  been  severe  in   the  past.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that it  was not  possible to  start a  program,                                                                    
stop  it,  and to  start  it  again.  He stressed  that  the                                                                    
program  had been  successful at  bringing doctors  back. He                                                                    
remarked that  people would lose  confidence in  the state's                                                                    
ability to have similar programs.  He stated that there were                                                                    
three  states  that  used  the  University  of  Washington's                                                                    
facilities  to educate  their students.  He emphasized  that                                                                    
the other states would fill  the voids and Alaska would lose                                                                    
doctors.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:02:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz struggled  with the amendment; however,                                                                    
she   appreciated   the   sponsor's   decision   to   delete                                                                    
subcommittee  language  that  would have  immediately  begun                                                                    
ramping down the  program. She wondered if it  would be wise                                                                    
to  seek   input  from  the   medical  community   prior  to                                                                    
announcing an intent to terminate the program.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  noted that  the current  termination clause                                                                    
required a formal written notice  to the WWAMI program three                                                                    
years in advance.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis  communicated   that  she  had  spent                                                                    
significant  time speaking  with  long-term  doctors in  her                                                                    
district. When  she had  looked at  the program  records she                                                                    
had discovered  that the program's  original mission  was no                                                                    
longer  occurring. She  detailed that  there were  long-term                                                                    
doctors in  her district who  hired from the West  Coast and                                                                    
Alaska;  they were  part of  international hiring  teams and                                                                    
believed the program could do  a better job. She intended to                                                                    
reach  the people  who  were hiring  and  to determine  what                                                                    
Alaska could do  to accommodate it. She and  others were not                                                                    
certain WWAMI  was the appropriate program.  She intended to                                                                    
extensively  explore the  issue. She  invited Representative                                                                    
Munoz to join her in the process.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  spoke to a shortage  of family practice                                                                    
doctors in Alaska.  He stated that the two best  ways to get                                                                    
doctors to  move to  Alaska were  residencies and  the WWAMI                                                                    
program.  He  was  concerned  that   the  program  would  be                                                                    
eliminated   without   knowing   what  would   replace   it.                                                                    
Additionally,  he was  concerned that  the program  would be                                                                    
ended  when there  was  a shortage  in  family practice.  He                                                                    
wondered about a plan to fill the shortage.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman underscored that  the amendment fully funded                                                                    
WWAMI.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:06:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  noted that  the program  was funded                                                                    
through the next  year; therefore, no new  students would be                                                                    
admitted after  the upcoming year. He  wondered about buying                                                                    
time to communicate with the  medical community to determine                                                                    
whether WWAMI was  or was not the best  program. He believed                                                                    
that given physician  shortages across the state  it did not                                                                    
make sense  to discontinue the  program. He did  not believe                                                                    
it made sense  to end the program prior to  knowing what the                                                                    
medical community  thought. He relayed that  the program had                                                                    
been terminated  in the 1980s  when there had been  a budget                                                                    
issue.  As a  result, for  a long  time there  had not  been                                                                    
physicians  trained for  Alaska. He  noted that  the program                                                                    
had  been   reinstated  under   the  University   of  Alaska                                                                    
Anchorage in the  1990s. He MOVED an  amendment to Amendment                                                                    
29 to  add that the notice  of termination would be  made in                                                                    
the coming year  at this time. He believed  the change would                                                                    
provide time for the committee  to learn whether the program                                                                    
was performing well.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   believed  the  amendment   would  already                                                                    
accomplish the  goal. He explained that  the amendment fully                                                                    
funded the WWAMI program for  three years, but would prevent                                                                    
the program  from adding  new students  beginning in  FY 17.                                                                    
The change  would allow time for  the state to try  to catch                                                                    
up on budgetary needs. He  surmised that perhaps the economy                                                                    
would improve  in the future  or maybe there would  be other                                                                    
options.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis observed  that the  state had  come a                                                                    
long way since  the WWAMI program had  been implemented. She                                                                    
relayed  that there  were other  programs the  medical field                                                                    
believed  offered  more  bang  for  the  state's  buck.  She                                                                    
planned to continue work on the issue during the summer.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  OBJECTED.  He  stated  that  the                                                                    
ability  to attract  general physicians  and internists  was                                                                    
difficult.  He noted  that it  was even  more difficult  and                                                                    
expensive   to  recruit   heart  surgeons   and  specialized                                                                    
doctors.  He did  not believe  the WWAMI  program should  be                                                                    
terminated  or   phased  out  until   there  was   a  better                                                                    
understanding  of  the options.  He  stated  that a  general                                                                    
practitioner was  difficult to bring home.  He remarked that                                                                    
expensive doctors  would come if  they were paid  enough. He                                                                    
reasoned that  training Alaskan residents and  bringing them                                                                    
home to work put the state ahead of the curve.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:11:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman noted  that the intent of  the amendment was                                                                    
to serve notice.  He remarked that whether or  not notice of                                                                    
termination was served was a  separate question. He believed                                                                    
it  would  most  likely  would  take  legislation  to  serve                                                                    
termination   notice.  He   stressed   that  the   amendment                                                                    
contained intent language only.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gattis, Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Thompson, Neuman                                                                     
OPPOSED: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz, Edgmon                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (6/5). Amendment 29 was ADOPTED.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:13:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 30:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Edgmon                                                                                                    
     DEPARTMENT: Education & Early Development                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Pre-Kindergarten Grants                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,900,000 UGF (1004)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This restores Pre-Kindergarten grants to                                                                      
     the level proposed in the Governor's Amended Budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  relayed that he intended  to withdraw                                                                    
the amendment after  speaking to it. He  discussed the value                                                                    
of early  learning. He believed  committee members  were all                                                                    
aware  that  there  was  more   evidence  of  the  life-long                                                                    
benefits  that  early  learning  provided  to  children.  He                                                                    
remarked on  difficult choices the  legislature had  to make                                                                    
related to budget  cuts. He wondered if  the legislature was                                                                    
dipping  into the  "seed-core"  with the  cut  to Pre-K.  He                                                                    
detailed  that the  cuts were  going to  a program  that had                                                                    
existed  for a  few years.  He stated  that the  funds would                                                                    
have allowed  for six  facilities (Anchorage,  Mat-Su, Lower                                                                    
Kuskokwim, Yukon-Koyukuk,  Juneau, and  Nome) to  continue a                                                                    
two-year  Pre-K cycle.  He relayed  that he  had attended  a                                                                    
Council  of State  Governments forum  on early  learning the                                                                    
prior August  in Anchorage; the forum  had communicated that                                                                    
early learning  was still  struggling to  find its  niche in                                                                    
school   curriculum  throughout   the  country.   The  broad                                                                    
consensus  was  that  there  is   an  increasing  amount  of                                                                    
evidence  that early  learning provides  life-long benefits.                                                                    
He recalled  that a couple  of years earlier  the Department                                                                    
of Corrections commissioner had  told the committee that one                                                                    
of the  major ways  to combat  recidivism was  through early                                                                    
learning. He WITHDREW the amendment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:16:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 31:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman and Thompson                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Statewide Mentoring                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $500.0 Alaska Higher Education Investment Fund                                                                        
     (1226)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: The  purpose of  this amendment is  to add                                                                    
     $500.0  of  the  $750.0  for  the  Statewide  Mentoring                                                                    
     Program  that the  House Finance  Subcommittee reduced.                                                                    
     The Statewide  Mentoring Program includes  two specific                                                                    
     activities: the Alaska  Statewide Mentor Project (ASMP)                                                                    
     and the Alaska  Administrative Coaching Project (AACP).                                                                    
     The  ASMP  supports  the   profession  of  teaching  in                                                                    
     Alaska. The program  provides individualized support to                                                                    
     firsthand    second-year   teachers,    developing   an                                                                    
     effective  teaching force  that  is  responsive to  the                                                                    
     diverse academic needs and  cultural backgrounds of all                                                                    
     students. Since  the beginning of the  program in 2004,                                                                    
     teacher  retention  has  increased from  a  67  percent                                                                    
     retention  rate   to  a  77  percent   retention  rate.                                                                    
     Additionally,  in-state   research  shows   a  positive                                                                    
     impact  of mentoring  on the  learning of  students who                                                                    
     have new teachers who are receiving mentoring.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The AACP  component provides  coaching to  Alaska's new                                                                    
     principals. Data collected  indicates that early career                                                                    
     principals  overwhelmingly  report that  the  knowledge                                                                    
     and  skills necessary  for effective  school leadership                                                                    
     are learned through the AACP.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  explained that the amendment  would restore                                                                    
$500,000  of   the  original   $750,000  increment   to  the                                                                    
statewide   mentoring  program   from   the  Alaska   Higher                                                                    
Education  Fund. The  Statewide  Mentoring Program  included                                                                    
two  specific   activities:  the  Alaska   Statewide  Mentor                                                                    
Project  (ASMP)  and   the  Alaska  Administrative  Coaching                                                                    
Project  (AACP).  He  explained  that  since  the  program's                                                                    
inception in  2004 teacher retention  had increased  from 67                                                                    
percent  to 77  percent.  He believed  the most  significant                                                                    
impacts  of   the  program  were   seen  in   rural  Alaska.                                                                    
Additionally,  research  showed  that AACP  had  a  positive                                                                    
impact  on principals  and their  ability  to perform  their                                                                    
jobs. He surmised that maintaining  the program to help with                                                                    
retaining skilled  personnel and coaching  opportunities was                                                                    
important during a time of  budget cuts. He relayed that the                                                                    
amendment had come at the request of the governor.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  observed  there  were  six  amendments                                                                    
funded  through   the  Alaska  Higher  Education   Fund.  He                                                                    
referred to an earlier statement  that the funds were a one-                                                                    
time  occurrence. He  did not  see  how the  items would  be                                                                    
funded in the future. He  wondered if the fund could sustain                                                                    
the expenditures.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman noted that the  state was currently facing a                                                                    
$3.5 billion  deficit. He elaborated that  the committee had                                                                    
been  tasked  with  finding reductions  to  state  operating                                                                    
budgets. He stressed that the  state did not have sufficient                                                                    
savings  to  continue  to  fund at  the  current  level.  He                                                                    
emphasized that the Alaska Higher  Education Fund was not in                                                                    
jeopardy. He  observed that fortunately the  state could use                                                                    
the funds to get through  another year, which would give the                                                                    
state more time to find other ways to fund items.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 31 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:20:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 32:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Neuman and Thompson                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Alaska Library and Museums                                                                                  
     ALLOCATION: Live Homework Help                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    ADD: $138,200 Higher Education Investment Fund 1226                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   Live  Homework   Help  assists   Alaskan                                                                    
     student  to   do  well   in  courses,   participate  in                                                                    
     statewide  initiatives such  as the  Alaska Performance                                                                    
     Scholarship Awards,  meet goals  and prepare  for post-                                                                    
     secondary   success   by  providing   online   tutoring                                                                    
     services  with  accomplished  and vetted  tutors.  Last                                                                    
     year  Live  Homework  Help  delivered  25,046  tutoring                                                                    
     sessions online  in match, physics,  chemistry, biology                                                                    
     and writing  for grades four through  early college. It                                                                    
     is  a  widely  used,  beneficial,  and  less  expensive                                                                    
     alternative  to  in-person sessions  requiring  travel,                                                                    
     especially in rural Alaska.  Using the Higher Education                                                                    
     Investment  Fund for  this purpose  is consistent  with                                                                    
     the goals of the fund.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  believed the  benefit of  the program                                                                    
would far outweigh its relatively  low cost. He communicated                                                                    
that the  previous year the  Live Homework Help  program had                                                                    
delivered 25,046 tutoring sessions  online in various topics                                                                    
(e.g. physics, chemistry, biology,  and writing) to students                                                                    
in  grade  4  through  college.  The  amendment  would  fund                                                                    
$138,200 to the Live Homework  Help program through DEED. He                                                                    
noted  that  the  program  worked in  tandem  with  the  OWL                                                                    
program.  He believed  the program  contributed to  enabling                                                                    
students to move into the  21st Century with online learning                                                                    
capabilities  and  to  access  resources  that  may  not  be                                                                    
immediately available in their communities.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson noted  that  some  of Alaska's  great                                                                    
school  districts  were  providing  tutoring  through  other                                                                    
universities in the Lower 48.  For example, one district was                                                                    
working with  a university  in Pennsylvania and  had matched                                                                    
education  students  with   students  in  Pennsylvania.  She                                                                    
remarked  that there  were more  volunteers at  the specific                                                                    
university than  children in the school  district. She hoped                                                                    
the  University  of  Alaska   could  be  a  participant  and                                                                    
believed it would be a  great training experience. She added                                                                    
that  the tutors  had come  to different  districts and  had                                                                    
stayed longer  than those under  the mentoring  program. She                                                                    
thought the state should look  at potentially repeating some                                                                    
of the  great ideas  already being  put into  districts. She                                                                    
believed it  would be a  positive transition to  utilize the                                                                    
University  of Alaska  as  opposed  to universities  out-of-                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  remarked  that  he  had  an  identical                                                                    
amendment later on in the  amendment packet. He requested to                                                                    
be added as  a cosponsor to Amendment 32 and  noted he would                                                                    
withdraw his amendment later on in the meeting.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representatives Kawasaki,  Guttenberg, and  Edgmon requested                                                                    
to add their names as cosponsors to the amendment.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 32 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:24:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 33:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Munoz                                                                                                          
     DEPARTMENT: Transportation/Public Facilities                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Part 1:                                                                                                                    
     APPROPRJATION: Marine Highway System                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                                                                                                                       
     $700,000 Unrestricted General Funds                                                                                        
     Explanation:  This addition  changes the  decrement for                                                                    
     "Service  Level  Reduction  and Efficiencies"  from  $6                                                                    
     million to $5.3  million by adding $.7  million back to                                                                    
     Personal Services.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Part 2:                                                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION: Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Transfer $1 million from the  Services line-item to the                                                                    
     Personal Services line-item.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation: The  intent of this action  is to decrease                                                                    
     repair/maintenance    on   equipment    and   machinery                                                                    
     (Expenditure Account 73676) by  $1 million and apply it                                                                    
     to Personal  Services to lessen  the impact  to service                                                                    
     levels. This expenditure account  had Actuals of $117.3                                                                    
     in FY14, but has $1.3 million budgeted for FY16.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Commissioner Part 3:                                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                       
     Transfer $1  million from the Commodities  line-item to                                                                    
     the Personal Services line item.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation: The  intent of this action  is to decrease                                                                    
     commodities  by $1  million and  apply  it to  Personal                                                                    
     Services to  lessen the impact to  service levels. This                                                                    
     expenditure  account  has  $7.8  million  budgeted  for                                                                    
     FY16.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Part 4:                                                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION: Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,500,000 Unrestricted General Funds                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Marine Vessel Fuel                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $1,500,000 Unrestricted General Funds                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation: The  intent of this action  is to decrease                                                                    
     Marine  Vessel Fuel  by $1.5  million and  apply it  to                                                                    
     Personal  Services  to  lessen the  impact  to  service                                                                    
     levels. With average fuel  delivery costs now projected                                                                    
     to  be lower  in  FY16  over FY15,  it  is rational  to                                                                    
     assume that the overall cost for fuel will decrease.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
move  approximately  $4.2  million into  the  Alaska  Marine                                                                    
Highway  System  (AMHS)  service  levels  for  ferry  system                                                                    
service. The  funds were broken  down into  four components.                                                                    
She  detailed that  the first  component would  add $700,000                                                                    
UGF; the  second component  would move  $1 million  from the                                                                    
services line  item, which had 34  components totaling $12.1                                                                    
million; the third component would  move $1 million from the                                                                    
commodities  line item,  which  contained  $7.8 million  for                                                                    
items like mattresses, restaurant  items, and other; and the                                                                    
fourth component would take $1.5  million from marine vessel                                                                    
fuel.  She detailed  that the  current  budgeted amount  for                                                                    
AMHS  fuel  was $2.56  per  gallon  (based on  10.4  million                                                                    
gallons), whereas  the current published rate  for petroleum                                                                    
out  of Seattle,  WA was  $1.94 per  gallon. She  elaborated                                                                    
that the average delivery fee  was about $0.42. She reasoned                                                                    
the two  costs combined  still equated to  a $0.20  to $0.25                                                                    
savings per  gallon, which more  than covered  the reduction                                                                    
of $1.5 million.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson spoke in  opposition to the amendment.                                                                    
She  wondered why  the $700,000  UGF  funding was  necessary                                                                    
especially   if   fuel   costs  continued   declining.   She                                                                    
understood  wanting to  add additional  money  to AMHS,  but                                                                    
observed that  the Department  of Transportation  and Public                                                                    
Facilities  (DOT) budget  had  been  reduced statewide.  She                                                                    
remarked that  the northern region  would be losing  quite a                                                                    
bit of  funding; she  had told constituents  to get  used to                                                                    
driving on new snow due to a reduction in DOT services.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson spoke  in support  of  the amendment.  He                                                                    
discussed that  he had chaired the  DOT budget subcommittee.                                                                    
He  detailed  that  the subcommittee  had  reduced  the  DOT                                                                    
budget by $20  million: $10 million from  roads and airports                                                                    
and $10  million from AMHS.  He was sensitive to  the island                                                                    
communities using the ferries  as roads to receive groceries                                                                    
and travel  to the doctor.  He stated that  significant work                                                                    
needed  to be  done on  the  ferry system  budget, which  he                                                                    
planned  to do  over the  summer.  He stated  that with  the                                                                    
restoration  of   $700,000  UGF  there  would   still  be  a                                                                    
reduction  of $9.3  million. He  noted that  there was  some                                                                    
readjusting  of  funds  between the  current  amendment  and                                                                    
Amendment 34. He reiterated that  much work would be done on                                                                    
the budget  over the  summer to  determine ferry  routes and                                                                    
other.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:29:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis  struggled  with the  amendment,  but                                                                    
understood that  $10 million had  already been  removed from                                                                    
the AMHS  budget. She hoped  that Southeast  recognized that                                                                    
the state was  struggling with its road system;  some of the                                                                    
state's  fastest growing  communities  were struggling  with                                                                    
keeping roads.  She supported the amendment  reluctantly due                                                                    
to  adding back  funds. She  recognized that  a $20  million                                                                    
reduction was a substantial reduction to the DOT budget.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt echoed  the words  of Representatives                                                                    
Gattis and Thompson.  He struggled with adding  funds due to                                                                    
the  fiscal situation;  however, he  credited Representative                                                                    
Munoz  for looking  at various  areas within  the department                                                                    
where  money could  be used  more  efficiently. He  remarked                                                                    
that the funds  were a temporary plug. He  looked forward to                                                                    
information in the future on  how service could be continued                                                                    
in a more efficient way. He  stated that there had been many                                                                    
people  over  many  years who  had  done  some  "fascinating                                                                    
things"  that prevented  the state  from  managing AMHS.  He                                                                    
vocalized support for  the amendment due to the  work put in                                                                    
by  the sponsor  and because  the issue  would be  worked on                                                                    
over the  summer. He recognized that  restoring $700,000 did                                                                    
not represent adding  new UGF, but lessened the  cut to $9.3                                                                    
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon spoke in  support of the amendment. He                                                                    
underscored  the importance  of  the  seasonal ferry  system                                                                    
service  to Southwest  Alaskan communities  (i.e. Sandpoint,                                                                    
King  Cove,  Chignik,  Unalaska,  Akutan,  False  Pass,  and                                                                    
other).  He  stated  that the  amendment  acknowledged  that                                                                    
times  were   changing;  it  provided  AMHS   with  a  short                                                                    
reprieve,  but  the  ferry  system   would  be  required  to                                                                    
continue to  prove its  existence. He  lauded Representative                                                                    
Munoz and Co-Chair Thompson for  their work on the amendment                                                                    
and pointed to its creativity.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:33:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Saddler   associated  himself   with   previous                                                                    
comments by  committee members. He  was conscious  of adding                                                                    
money back,  but he took  comfort knowing there  would still                                                                    
be  reductions. He  observed that  it was  only in  times of                                                                    
shortage that people really worked  to find creative ways to                                                                    
find service at the  lowest possible cost, while maintaining                                                                    
essential  services. He  looked  forward to  the work  going                                                                    
forward  and looking  into the  possibility of  preferential                                                                    
pricing. He remarked that the  service was important and was                                                                    
also  a scarce  commodity  for visitors  in  the summer.  He                                                                    
commented on the high price  of a last-minute airline ticket                                                                    
and wondered  about increasing prices for  last-minute ferry                                                                    
travel.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:34:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson OBJECTED. She  stated that the rest of                                                                    
the DOT system was taking a larger hit than AMHS.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt clarified that  he would be frustrated                                                                    
if a  ferry schedule was  published in October that  put the                                                                    
legislature in a  position of making more  cuts. He remarked                                                                    
that AMHS had  previously published a schedule  while it had                                                                    
been  under  consideration   for  potential  downsizing.  He                                                                    
remarked that because the legislature  was putting the ferry                                                                    
system  on  notice, he  expected  AMHS  to be  cognizant  of                                                                    
potential cuts when setting its  schedule. He stated that it                                                                    
was not fair to Alaskan communities.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara remarked  that legislators  represented                                                                    
the entire  state. He stated  that the people  driving roads                                                                    
in his part of the  state (Southcentral) were fortunate that                                                                    
they did not  pay. He did not  want them to pay  and did not                                                                    
want to  impose tolls; however,  they drove their  roads for                                                                    
free. He  stated that  people in  Southeast actually  pay to                                                                    
travel their roads  (i.e. the marine highway).  He had heard                                                                    
many people beating up on  AHMS. He thought it was important                                                                    
to recognize that  it was the only highway  where people pay                                                                    
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson agreed  that people did pay  fees; but the                                                                    
fees  accounted for  slightly less  than 30  percent of  the                                                                    
$160 million cost.  He stated that of the  $124 million cost                                                                    
to maintain the state's roads,  over 80 percent was paid for                                                                    
with gas, tire,  and rental car taxes. He would  be happy if                                                                    
the state could  get the ferry system pay for  80 percent of                                                                    
its cost.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:37:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson MAINTAINED  her OBJECTION to Amendment                                                                    
33.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gattis,   Guttenberg,  Kawasaki,   Munoz,  Pruitt,                                                                    
Saddler, Edgmon, Gara, Thompson, Neuman                                                                                         
OPPOSED: Wilson                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (10/1). Amendment 33 was ADOPTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson requested  to have  his name  added as  a                                                                    
cosponsor to Amendment 33.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 34:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Munoz                                                                                                          
     DEPARTMENT: Transportation/Public Facilities                                                                               
     APPROPRIATION: Marine Highway System                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Marine Vessel Operations                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  $1,800,000  Alaska  Marine Highway  System  Funds                                                                    
     (Fund Code 1076)                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Explanation:  This  increase  would stem  from  a  fare                                                                    
     increase of  4.5 percent  to be  applied to  the Winter                                                                    
     2015 and Summer 2016 schedule.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD  INTENT   LANGUAGE:  It  is   the  intent   of  the                                                                    
     legislature  that  the  Alaska  Marine  Highway  System                                                                    
     continue  existing  service   levels  during  the  peak                                                                    
     summer months and any reduction  in service levels will                                                                    
     occur during non-peak months."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
give  AMHS the  authority to  institute a  4.5 percent  fare                                                                    
increase, which  would be applied  to the winter  and summer                                                                    
schedules. She  detailed that  the increase  was anticipated                                                                    
to generate $1.8 million for the ferry system.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson  explained that  the 4.5  percent increase                                                                    
was  projected  to generate  $1.8  million,  which would  be                                                                    
marine highway service funds. The  amendment would give AMHS                                                                    
receipt authority to utilize the  money, but it would not be                                                                    
given to  the system in  completeness; if the money  was not                                                                    
raised,  it could  not be  spent. He  stated that  the funds                                                                    
would make AMHS  whole through the winter. He  hoped that by                                                                    
the coming fall the funding would be exceeded.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman asked  if the fare increase  was in addition                                                                    
to a  recent fare  increase. Representative  Munoz responded                                                                    
in the  affirmative. She detailed  that a fare  increase had                                                                    
been instituted in the 2015  summer schedule. She elaborated                                                                    
that the amendment  would enable AMHS to adjust  the fee for                                                                    
the winter  and following  summer; the total  increase would                                                                    
equal  approximately   9  percent.   She  believed   it  was                                                                    
appropriate as it had been  many years since a fare increase                                                                    
had been implemented.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  asked   for  verification   that  the                                                                    
amendment would mean an overall fare increase of 9 percent.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  replied  that   an  increase  of  4.5                                                                    
percent  had been  published  for the  summer  of 2015.  The                                                                    
amendment  would allow  the ferry  system to  increase rates                                                                    
for the  following winter  and summer  by an  additional 4.5                                                                    
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 34 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:41:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  35  [Note:                                                                    
final page of Amendment 35  titled "Annual State Spending on                                                                    
Expansion" on file]:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representative Gara                                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Corrections                                                                                                    
     APPROPRIATION: Health and Rehabilitation Services                                                                          
     ALLOCATION: Physical Health Care                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $4,108.2 Gen Fund (1004)                                                                                           
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the  amendment reinstates                                                                    
     the budget savings of $4,108.2  UGF that will no longer                                                                    
     be required to  be spent if the  Governor's proposal to                                                                    
     expand Medicaid is reinstated in the Operating Budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:  Behavioral Health  Treatment and  Recovery                                                                    
     Grants                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $1,558.7 GF/MH (1037)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the  amendment reinstates                                                                    
     the budget savings of $1,558.7  UGF that will no longer                                                                    
     be required to  be spent if the  Governor's proposal to                                                                    
     expand Medicaid is reinstated in the Operating Budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Health Care Services                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION:    Catastrophic    and   Chronic    Illness                                                                    
     Assistance                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $1,000.0 Gen Fund (1004)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the  amendment reinstates                                                                    
     the budget savings of $1,000.0  UGF that will no longer                                                                    
     be required to  be spent if the  Governor's proposal to                                                                    
     expand Medicaid is reinstated in the Operating Budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Health Care Services                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Medical Assistance Administration                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $410.0 ($205.0 Fed [1002], $205.0 MHTAAR [1092])                                                                      
     POSITIONS: ADD: 3 PFT positions                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the amendment  allows the                                                                    
     state to  accept Federal and Mental  Health Trust funds                                                                    
     for   three   positions    associated   with   Medicaid                                                                    
     expansion.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Public Assistance                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION: Public Assistance Field Services                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  $2,777.3 ($1,385.6  Fed  [1002], $1,385.7  MHTAAR                                                                    
     [1092])                                                                                                                    
     POSITIONS: ADD: 23 PFT positions                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This amendment allows  the state to accept                                                                    
     Federal and Mental Health Trust  funds for 23 positions                                                                    
     associated with the expansion of Medicaid.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Departmental Support Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Commissioner's Office                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $0.0                                                                                                                  
     POSITIONS:  Establish  a   project  manager  to  manage                                                                    
     Medicaid expansion team.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  amendment adds a  temporary position                                                                    
     to manage  the Medicaid expansion  team - not  money or                                                                    
     PFTs.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Medicaid Services                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION: Behavioral Health Medicaid Services                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $4,799.5 Fed (1002)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the amendment  allows the                                                                    
     department to  accept $4, 799.5  in Federal  funds that                                                                    
     will benefit Behavioral Health.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Medicaid Services                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:   Adult    Preventative   Dental   Medicaid                                                                    
     Services                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $5,381.2 Fed (1002)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the amendment  allows the                                                                    
     department  to accept  $5,381.2 in  Federal funds  that                                                                    
     will benefit Adult Preventative Dental services.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Medicaid Services                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Senior and Disabilities Medicaid Services                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $2,908.8 Fed (1002)                                                                                                   
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the amendment  allows the                                                                    
     department  to accept  $2,908.8 in  Federal funds  that                                                                    
     will benefit Senior and Disability Medicaid services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Medicaid Services                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION: Health Care Medicaid Services                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $132,348.9 Fed (1002)                                                                                                 
     EXPLANATION: This  portion of the amendment  allows the                                                                    
     department to  accept $132,348.9 in Federal  funds that                                                                    
     will  provide the  opportunity  for  healthcare to  the                                                                    
     over 40,000  individuals without  it in  Alaska, create                                                                    
     4,000 jobs, and inject money into the state's economy.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Medicaid Services                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Health Care Medicaid Services                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE   WORDAGE:  No   money   appropriated  in   this                                                                    
     appropriation may  be expended for services  to persons                                                                    
     who  are eligible  pursuant to  42  United States  Code                                                                    
     section  1396a(a)(l0)A)(i)(VIII)  and  whose  household                                                                    
     modified adjusted  gross income  is less than  or equal                                                                    
     to  one hundred  thirty-three  percent  of the  federal                                                                    
     poverty guidelines.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This  portion  of the  amendment  deletes                                                                    
     wordage  that  prohibits  the expenditure  of  Medicaid                                                                    
     funding on the expansion population.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara opined  that the  amendment represented                                                                    
the easiest $6.6  million savings anywhere in  the budget by                                                                    
accepting  Medicaid  expansion.  The  amendment  included  a                                                                    
summary from  the Evergreen study  (copy on  file), provided                                                                    
by  DHSS. He  stated that  not only  would state  savings be                                                                    
achieved,  Alaska  would  receive $145  million  in  federal                                                                    
money.  He detailed  that the  federal money  would generate                                                                    
4,000  good  jobs,  which  were  important  to  the  state's                                                                    
economy. He  referred to a  comment by labor  economist Neil                                                                    
Fried that  the state  would lose 2,000  jobs in  the coming                                                                    
year.  He stressed  that it  would not  be wise  to speed  a                                                                    
recession. He reasoned that turning  away budget savings and                                                                    
4,000 jobs  would be a  mistake. He expounded  that Medicaid                                                                    
expansion  would  provide  healthcare to  20,000  to  40,000                                                                    
Alaskans (the difference factored  on including or excluding                                                                    
individuals  who  received  Indian  Health  Service  medical                                                                    
care). He continued  that expansion would fix  a gap created                                                                    
by a lawsuit brought by  a number of governors. He explained                                                                    
that  a gap  existed  for low-income  people  working for  a                                                                    
living who  did not  receive insurance  subsidies. Accepting                                                                    
Medicaid  expansion  would   provide  the  individuals  with                                                                    
insurance subsidies.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   addressed  that   without  expansion,                                                                    
Medicaid covered  individuals with disabilities or  a child,                                                                    
but it did not cover single  individuals or a couple with no                                                                    
child. He  explained that with Medicaid  expansion the state                                                                    
would  receive 100  percent federal  funding  for costs  the                                                                    
state  was   currently  paying   (e.g.  costs   for  alcohol                                                                    
treatment).  He  stated that  $4  million  in savings  would                                                                    
result because the state  funded prisoner healthcare outside                                                                    
its  prison system.  He discussed  that  Evergreen had  been                                                                    
working for  the state and  analyzing its Medicaid  data for                                                                    
approximately 12  years. He stressed that  no consultant had                                                                    
studied the state's Medicaid system  more than Evergreen. He                                                                    
addressed  an  argument that  the  amendment  should not  be                                                                    
passed because someone should file  a bill. He remarked that                                                                    
most bills in the legislature  failed due to road blocks. He                                                                    
wanted to include Medicaid expansion  in the budget to avoid                                                                    
the  subject getting  blocked in  the committee  process. He                                                                    
referred to  presentations to the  committee on  the subject                                                                    
by  DHSS.   He  emphasized   that  the  committee   had  the                                                                    
information  it  needed to  make  an  informed decision.  He                                                                    
reiterated that there was no  easier $6.6 million cut to the                                                                    
budget. He believed the increment  should be included in the                                                                    
current budget.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman remarked  that there was no  $6.6 million in                                                                    
the  budget. He  stated that  Evergreen had  been the  third                                                                    
group to conduct a report  on Medicaid expansion and Alaska.                                                                    
One  report had  found  that expansion  would  not work  for                                                                    
Alaska  and  another  report  done by  Econ  One  had  found                                                                    
different conclusions than the Evergreen report.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:49:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   stated  that  the   amendment  attributed                                                                    
specific values to money the  state did not have. He thought                                                                    
it was difficult to write a  budget with money the state did                                                                    
not have.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  spoke in objection to  the amendment. He                                                                    
stated  that the  amendment would  add $150  million to  the                                                                    
budget on top of $1.7  billion already spent on Medicaid. He                                                                    
believed  the amendment  would put  Alaska on  the hook  for                                                                    
Medicaid  expansion forever.  He  noted  that the  amendment                                                                    
included   no  provisions   for  reform,   cost-containment,                                                                    
utilization  control,   managed  care,   care  coordination,                                                                    
health savings  accounts, medical provider tax,  side boards                                                                    
for withdrawal,  and other. He  stated that  the legislature                                                                    
took  big policy  issues  and put  them  through big  policy                                                                    
committees with  a transparent  public process.  He believed                                                                    
the issue should and would be debated in another bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg   spoke   in  support   of   the                                                                    
amendment. He  supported Medicaid expansion and  he believed                                                                    
the budget  was an  appropriate place to  put it.  He stated                                                                    
that  in  many  ways  Medicaid  reform  and  expansion  took                                                                    
inefficiencies  and created  efficiencies. He  stressed that                                                                    
the  lowest-income residents  were  the most  costly to  the                                                                    
system  due  to how  they  used  the healthcare  system.  He                                                                    
referred to  an example of homeless  individuals who visited                                                                    
the emergency room  20 times per year and  had 45 encounters                                                                    
with police;  when those individuals received  insurance the                                                                    
cost to  the state decreased dramatically.  He reasoned that                                                                    
the  approach could  be viewed  as  a fiscally  conservative                                                                    
approach  to   managing  medical  care  in   the  state.  He                                                                    
elaborated that one  of the side benefits  would be building                                                                    
out the medical  community. He noted that the  value may not                                                                    
be  possible  to  demonstrate in  current  dollars,  but  he                                                                    
believed the benefits  had been shown. He  remarked that the                                                                    
savings would  not all  be accrued by  the state,  but there                                                                    
were   many  savings   that  would   accrue   back  to   the                                                                    
communities.  He  noted  that expansion  would  accept  $145                                                                    
million  in federal  money. He  continued that  the governor                                                                    
had  committed  to  withdrawing  from  the  program  if  the                                                                    
reimbursement  decreased to  a  certain  level. He  remarked                                                                    
that  the state  fought to  keep military  personnel in  the                                                                    
state, who were funded by federal  money. He spoke to a huge                                                                    
benefit  to  the  state  dealing  with  the  health  of  all                                                                    
Alaskans. He  believed the budget  was an  appropriate place                                                                    
to put the funds.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:55:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  provided closing remarks.  He responded                                                                    
to  a statement  made  about studies  conducted on  Medicaid                                                                    
expansion in Alaska. He stated  that Evergreen used the real                                                                    
demographics  in the  state that  they  were familiar  with,                                                                    
which had resulted in their  conclusion that expansion would                                                                    
save the  state $6.6 million  in the first year.  He relayed                                                                    
that  the study  had  factored  in that  53  percent of  the                                                                    
Medicaid recipients in the state  were male; males tended to                                                                    
go to the doctor less  frequently than females. He furthered                                                                    
that of the 53 percent, 20  percent were between the ages of                                                                    
19 and 33, which was  a low-cost group related to healthcare                                                                    
costs. He  stressed that the  great political  mistake would                                                                    
be to pass on expansion  in the years the federal government                                                                    
would pay 100 percent. He  had heard the argument that there                                                                    
was no  Medicaid reform; however, the  DHSS commissioner had                                                                    
proposed $20 million  in Medicaid reform. He  added that any                                                                    
legislator  could file  a reform  bill if  they desired.  He                                                                    
asserted  that  committee  had  held  full  and  transparent                                                                    
hearings on the subject. He  remarked that he had never seen                                                                    
the  state turn  away 90  percent federal  road funding.  He                                                                    
believed the  state should accept  100 percent  medical care                                                                    
funding that would turn into  90 percent funding by 2020. He                                                                    
remarked on the many benefits  of Medicaid expansion for the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Gara                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 35 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:58:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 36:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Early Learning Coordination                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $357.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Restores  all  funds to  the  Parents  as                                                                    
     Teachers  program   and  adds   $50.0  to   reach  more                                                                    
     families. Parents as  Teachers was passed as  a bill by                                                                    
     the Legislature  because it is the  most cost-effective                                                                    
     way to  provide Pre-K education to  young children, and                                                                    
     is proven  to save  money by graduating  more students,                                                                    
     reducing  social   service  and  criminal   costs,  and                                                                    
     increasing  a student's  future  earning potential  and                                                                    
     educational attainment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  discussed that  all state  funded Pre-K                                                                    
had  been eliminated  by the  DEED  budget subcommittee.  He                                                                    
pointed to the benefits of  Pre-K programs. He detailed that                                                                    
youth  who went  to  Pre-K graduate  high  school in  higher                                                                    
numbers, attend college in higher  numbers, earn more money,                                                                    
end up in  jail in smaller numbers, and cost  the state less                                                                    
in criminal  costs. He elaborated  that Parents  as Teachers                                                                    
had been  an effort  by many legislators  including himself,                                                                    
former  Representative  Bill  Thomas,  Representative  Chris                                                                    
Tuck, and  others (Parents as  Teachers was  a non-classroom                                                                    
Pre-K  program). He  stressed  that the  program worked;  he                                                                    
referred  to significant  public  testimony  in support.  He                                                                    
explained the  amendment would add  $50,000 to  funding from                                                                    
the prior  year. He  stated that  the investment  would save                                                                    
the  state  money  in  the  long-term.  He  underscored  the                                                                    
program  would improve  the state's  low ranking  in reading                                                                    
proficiency and would improve graduation rates.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:01:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Kawasaki, Gara, Guttenberg                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 36 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 37:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Early Learning Coordination                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $287.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: Restore  the Governor's proposed  level of                                                                    
     funding to the Parents  as Teachers program. Parents as                                                                    
     Teachers  was  passed  as a  bill  by  the  Legislature                                                                    
     because it  is the  most cost-effective way  to provide                                                                    
     Pre-K to young  children, and is proven  to save states                                                                    
     money  by  graduating  more students,  reducing  social                                                                    
     service and criminal costs, and increasing a student's                                                                     
     future earning potential and educational attainment.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara explained  the amendment  would restore                                                                    
funding to  Parents as Teachers  at the governor's  level of                                                                    
$287,500.  He relayed  that the  amendment  was more  modest                                                                    
than the previous amendment ($70,000 less).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg   spoke   in  support   of   the                                                                    
amendment. He noted that the  committee had heard compelling                                                                    
public testimony on  the program. He commented  that many of                                                                    
the parents  who supported Parents as  Teachers had received                                                                    
stress  relief  as  a  result of  their  experience  in  the                                                                    
program. He believed that eliminating  funds for the program                                                                    
during the  challenging budget environment was  a disservice                                                                    
to residents.  He stated that  expenses in other  areas such                                                                    
as social service programs and  public safety would increase                                                                    
without the program.  He noted that the program  had been in                                                                    
place  for  several  years  and had  been  proven  as  cost-                                                                    
effective. He  believed it was important  to support Parents                                                                    
as Teachers  and similar programs  that would help  keep the                                                                    
state stable.  He spoke to  the decrease in  recidivism that                                                                    
resulted from  early childhood programs. He  opined that the                                                                    
program was healthy for the state in the long-term.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:04:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki  testified   in  support   of  the                                                                    
amendment. He believed the proposal  was modest. He spoke to                                                                    
past bipartisan  support of the program.  He elaborated that                                                                    
the  program was  a great  way to  get parents  engaged with                                                                    
families. He communicated that the  program had exceeded his                                                                    
expectation;  it was  currently  in 50  communities and  the                                                                    
program  in  Southeast  included  343  families  in  various                                                                    
communities. He  highlighted that  parents relayed  that the                                                                    
program  offered  them  with   a  successful  education.  He                                                                    
observed that  the education would  help the state  down the                                                                    
road. He  noted that  the program  was currently  offered in                                                                    
all  other states;  Alaska would  be the  only state  in the                                                                    
nation without the program if funding was eliminated.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Munoz, Edgmon, Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                             
OPPOSED: Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Gattis, Thompson, Neuman                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 37 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:06:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW Amendment 38 (copy on file).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 39:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Pre-Kindergarten Grants                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,900.0 UGF (1004)                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: Restore  all funding  to the  Pre-K grants                                                                    
     deleted by  the Subcommittee.  This is the  mainstay of                                                                    
     Alaska's  state voluntary  classroom Pre-K  program and                                                                    
     has proven to improve intellectual growth.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   discussed  that   in  the   past  the                                                                    
legislature  had worked  across  party lines  to become  the                                                                    
43rd state  to try for  a statewide Pre-K program.  He noted                                                                    
that Alaska  was one of just  a handful of states  without a                                                                    
statewide Pre-K  program. He continued that  former Governor                                                                    
Sarah  Palin had  agreed  to work  with  the legislature  to                                                                    
start  a pilot  program;  the administration  had agreed  to                                                                    
double the  funding to $4  million if the program  was shown                                                                    
to be  successful after  three years.  He stressed  that the                                                                    
program  had  worked and  was  evidence-based.  He spoke  to                                                                    
increased  graduation  rates  and a  reduction  in  criminal                                                                    
costs.  He  discussed that  Pre-K  decreased  costs in  K-12                                                                    
schools  and  increased  the   well-being  of  students.  He                                                                    
stressed  that the  eradication  of the  state's only  Pre-K                                                                    
program  would be  a mistake.  He noted  that the  amendment                                                                    
would  fund  the program  at  the  level of  the  governor's                                                                    
request  of $1.9  million. He  underscored that  it was  not                                                                    
possible to do better than  evidence. He hoped members would                                                                    
support the amendment.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:09:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Edgmon, Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz                                                                             
OPPOSED: Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Gattis, Thompson, Neuman                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 39 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 40:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Early Learning Coordination                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $937.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   This   amendment   restores   the   Best                                                                    
     Beginnings  program  to the  level  of  funding in  the                                                                    
     Governor's  budget.  Best   Beginnings  fosters  strong                                                                    
     partnerships  with local  and  statewide entities  that                                                                    
     promote  early learning  opportunities for  children to                                                                    
     start   school  prepared   to  succeed.   Studies  show                                                                    
     children with  more books in  the home are  more likely                                                                    
     to  become  good   readers.  Best  Beginnings  supports                                                                    
     Imagination Libraries and  early childhood partnerships                                                                    
     that provide  services in 113 Alaskan  communities with                                                                    
     an  enrollment of  23,603.  These partnerships  promote                                                                    
     healthy parent-child interaction,  higher quality early                                                                    
     care and  learning, and  parent education.  The program                                                                    
     costs  $30 per  year  per child  (0-5),  and is  funded                                                                    
     through  a combination  of state  and private  sources,                                                                    
     nearly half  of which  are raised  locally. In  FY 2014                                                                    
     the partnerships  raised $1.40  (cash and  in-kind) for                                                                    
     every Best Beginnings dollar they received.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara stressed that the state was running out                                                                     
of ways to remain in the list of states that provide state-                                                                     
funded  Pre-K.  He  emphasized   that  Best  Beginnings  was                                                                    
successful; it  leveraged private  money and  provided books                                                                    
to youth  through the Imagination Library.  He detailed that                                                                    
the  program  increased  the intellectual  activity  of  use                                                                    
beginning  in infancy.  Additionally, the  program had  been                                                                    
proven to  increase academic  achievement. He  remarked that                                                                    
the state  had funded the  low-cost program for  many years;                                                                    
the program reached  out to over 23,000  children. He opined                                                                    
that it would be a large  mistake to get rid of the program.                                                                    
The amendment  would restore the  DEED subcommittee  cut and                                                                    
elimination of the program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:12:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis  opined  that all  of  the  committee                                                                    
members  believed that  books for  kids were  important. She                                                                    
stressed  that  the  state  did  not  have  the  money.  She                                                                    
remarked that  it was necessary  to focus on what  the state                                                                    
was constitutionally  mandated to fund. She  believed it was                                                                    
not  possible   to  fund   everything  for   everybody.  She                                                                    
understood that  the programs  worked. She  believed parents                                                                    
should be involved with reading  books to their children and                                                                    
taking them to libraries.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  shared a story about  a child who                                                                    
had received  her book in  the mail  at the post  office. He                                                                    
recognized  that the  state's  decline curve  in income  was                                                                    
significant,  but all  of the  childhood education  programs                                                                    
had  an   impact  either  way.   He  emphasized   that  Best                                                                    
Beginnings  and   providing  books  to  children   had  huge                                                                    
benefits to  the state.  He disputed  the argument  that the                                                                    
state   could   not   afford  to   provide   the   programs.                                                                    
Alternately, he  wondered how the  state could not  fund the                                                                    
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson stated  that  the  program had  begun                                                                    
with volunteers  who signed up  for $25 to sponsor  a child.                                                                    
She believed it  had done well under the  initial model that                                                                    
did not  depend on  state funding. She  believed communities                                                                    
would  pick  up   the  programs  to  make   them  work.  She                                                                    
emphasized that  the absence of  state funding did  not mean                                                                    
the program  would end; it meant  it may revert back  to its                                                                    
original  form of  communities  supporting children  through                                                                    
libraries and possible donations.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Saddler  spoke   against   the  amendment.   He                                                                    
questioned when  parents had not been  teachers. He wondered                                                                    
when  parents did  not want  to  have a  best beginning  for                                                                    
their child that  was not contingent on a  state program. He                                                                    
was not  against kids,  books, or  parents; however,  he did                                                                    
not  believe  it  was  the   state's  role  to  provide  the                                                                    
functions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  spoke in support of  the amendment.                                                                    
He communicated  that the  Imagination Library  in Fairbanks                                                                    
had started due to volunteers  and state capital funding. He                                                                    
noted that the programs continued  largely because of a good                                                                    
organizational   backbone.   He   pointed   out   that   the                                                                    
partnership  raised cash  in addition  to funds  provided by                                                                    
the state.  He stated  that the organization  clearly worked                                                                    
outside  the frame  of government  in a  more cost-effective                                                                    
way  than the  state could  provide. He  stated that  if the                                                                    
legislature cut the last program  related to early education                                                                    
it represented less than 0.5  percent of the DEED budget. He                                                                    
stressed  that   the  legislature  was  not   funding  early                                                                    
education like it should be.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Edgmon, Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz                                                                             
OPPOSED: Saddler, Wilson, Gattis, Pruitt, Thompson, Neuman                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 40 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:18:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 41:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Student and School Achievement                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $320.0 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:     This     amendment    restores     the                                                                    
     Subcommittee's cut  to the  K-3 Literacy  Project. This                                                                    
     allocation  allows school  districts  to perform  early                                                                    
     literacy   screening  for   students  in   kindergarten                                                                    
     through   third  grade.   These   funds  also   provide                                                                    
     intervention  direction  for  educators,  parents,  and                                                                    
     agencies that  work with  children to  improve literacy                                                                    
     for  all learners.  Approximately  40,000 students  are                                                                    
     served.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  hoped the  House Finance  Committee was                                                                    
not  the  last stop  for  statewide  Pre-K. He  stated  that                                                                    
without  funding  Alaska would  be  one  of the  ten  states                                                                    
without the  program. He  relayed that  the amendment  was a                                                                    
low-cost way for  the state to screen  young children having                                                                    
problems with reading  in K-3. He spoke  to Alaska's ranking                                                                    
as  last in  the nation  in  4th grade  reading levels.  The                                                                    
amendment  would restore  funds  to the  K-3 early  literacy                                                                    
program that had  been cut by the  DEED budget subcommittee.                                                                    
He believed  it was smart  to screen youth to  determine who                                                                    
had fallen behind. He stressed  that it would save the state                                                                    
money in jail and education costs in the long run.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:20:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gattis   disputed    that   the   amendment                                                                    
represented a  money saver. She stressed  that the amendment                                                                    
was  a  money spender.  She  believed  the state  had  "rock                                                                    
stars" for  teachers who knew  whether their  students could                                                                    
read  or  not.  She  stated  that  the  money  went  to  the                                                                    
department  for  another  unfunded mandate  for  schools  to                                                                    
report  what  they  already  know.   She  believed  that  if                                                                    
teachers did not already know  that students could not read,                                                                    
the increment would not be helpful.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to Adopt Amendment 41 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 42:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Student and School Achievement                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $150.0 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:     This     amendment    reverses     the                                                                    
     Subcommittee's cut  to the Statewide  Literacy project.                                                                    
     The  State Literacy  Institute is  designed to  support                                                                    
     and  train   teachers  in  literacy   instruction  from                                                                    
     preschool  to  graduation.   This  allocation  supports                                                                    
     presenter contracts  and expenses, EEO staff  costs for                                                                    
     organization and travel to  the institute, facility and                                                                    
     conference  expenses, and  scholarship and  support for                                                                    
     teachers to  attend. In 2014, 118  participants from 11                                                                    
     different  districts  and  organizations  participated.                                                                    
     This amendment  restores the Governor's  proposed level                                                                    
     of funding for the program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
restore a  $150,000 cut  from the  governor's budget  by the                                                                    
DEED  budget subcommittee.  He detailed  that the  Statewide                                                                    
Literacy  program trained  teachers  and  educators to  help                                                                    
youth  who were  behind in  reading. He  discussed that  the                                                                    
program would  help get the state  out of last place  in 4th                                                                    
grade reading level.  He had heard no  explanation about how                                                                    
or why the small amount of money did not work.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson replied  that  the money  did not  go                                                                    
into  school  districts.  She   stated  that  districts  had                                                                    
already  provided the  function.  She stated  that DEED  had                                                                    
wanted increased reporting and the  funds did not go towards                                                                    
literacy for children. She stressed  that the department had                                                                    
decided to  force unfunded mandates;  the money went  to the                                                                    
department  and  not  districts. She  stated  that  services                                                                    
would continue to be funded outside of the increment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:23:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Edgmon, Gattis,  Munoz,  Pruitt, Saddler,  Wilson,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 42 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:24:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 43 [Note:                                                                          
final three pages of Amendment 35 titled "Legislative                                                                           
Research Services Research Brief" on file]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page l, line 2, following "capitalizing funds;":                                                                           
     Insert "lapsing appropriations"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 76, line 18, following "APPROPRJATIONS.":                                                                             
     Insert "(a)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 76, line 19:                                                                                                          
     Insert  new subsections  to read:  "(b) the  unexpended                                                                    
     and unobligated balance on June  30, 2015, estimated to                                                                    
     be $17,973,847,  of the appropriation made  in sec. 01,                                                                    
     ch. 16, SLA  2013, page 12, lines 20-21,  lapses to the                                                                    
     general fund on June 30, 2015."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This causes  the  available general  fund                                                                    
     balance appropriated to the  Anchorage - U-Med District                                                                    
     Northern  Access  project  to lapse  into  the  general                                                                    
     fund. The Bragaw Road extension  in Anchorage is not an                                                                    
     affordable  project  compared  to other  priorities  in                                                                    
     this fiscal climate.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     "(c)  $6  million  of the  unexpended  and  unobligated                                                                    
     balances,  estimated to  be a  total of  $6,681,700, of                                                                    
     the appropriations  made in  sec. 4,  ch. 16  SLA 2013,                                                                    
     page 105,  lines 20-24, and  sec. 4, ch. 18,  SLA 2014,                                                                    
     page 87,  lines 10-11,  and without elimination  of any                                                                    
     department  positions, lapses  to the  general fund  on                                                                    
     June 30, 2015."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This causes  the  available general  fund                                                                    
     balance  appropriated  to Susitna-Watana  Hydroelectric                                                                    
     projects to  lapse into the  general fund.  The Susitna                                                                    
     Dam would serve  the same customers as  the two gasline                                                                    
     projects being  considered by the  State at  this time,                                                                    
     and all three  projects will bring excess  power to the                                                                    
     Railbelt.  This   amendment  withdraws   the  remaining                                                                    
     unobligated funds with appropriated  to the Susitna Dam                                                                    
     in a  time of  budget shortfalls.  This lapse  does not                                                                    
     affect any positions at DCCED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: K-12 Aid to School Districts                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Additional Foundation Funding                                                                                  
     ADD: $62,243.7 UGF (1004)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  Language: The  sum of  $62,243.7 is  appropriated                                                                    
     from the  general fund to  the Department  of Education                                                                    
     and Early  Development to be  distributed as  state aid                                                                    
     to districts according to  the average daily membership                                                                    
     for each district  adjusted under AS 14.17.410(b)(l)(A)                                                                    
     - (D) for the fiscal year  ending June 30, 2016. If any                                                                    
     portion of  the $32,243.7  intended to  be appropriated                                                                    
     in HB278 passed  in 2014 is appropriated in  FY 16, and                                                                    
     distributed  through  the  foundation formula  per  the                                                                    
     language  in HB278,  the amount  of this  appropriation                                                                    
     shall be reduced by that appropriated amount.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  HB278 effectively  flat funds  schools in                                                                    
     the coming  two school  years, and staff  and education                                                                    
     cuts,   even  under   HB278   without  the   Governor's                                                                    
     reductions, will  be seen in Mat-Su,  Juneau, Fairbanks                                                                    
     and other  districts. This  amendment seeks  to prevent                                                                    
     staff cuts,  and make  up for  some prior  year's cuts.                                                                    
     HB278  passed   in  2014  adds   a  $50   Base  Student                                                                    
     Allocation  increase   at  a  roughly  cost   of  $12.5                                                                    
     million.  But in  the coming  school  year HB278  grant                                                                    
     funds to be distributed  through the Foundation Formula                                                                    
     fall  by $11,710,000,  effectively nullifying  the Base                                                                    
     Student  Allocation  Increase.  According to  a  recent                                                                    
     2015 Legislative  Research Report,  the amount  in this                                                                    
     amendment  will   hold  schools  even   with  inflation                                                                    
     compared to last school year.  Without this amount, the                                                                    
     Mat-Su  School  District predicts  a  roughly  $2 -  $3                                                                    
     million  deficit;  Fairbanks  estimates  it  will  lose                                                                    
     between  30  -  70  educators, and  the  Juneau  School                                                                    
     District has stated  in the Juneau Empire  that it will                                                                    
    pile more educator cuts on top of prior year cuts.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara spoke  to  Amendment  43. He  discussed                                                                    
that there  had been  teacher layoffs on  and off  in Alaska                                                                    
for the  past five years.  He noted that  the superintendent                                                                    
in Juneau had called  the layoffs devastating. He elaborated                                                                    
that in  Juneau, Mat-Su, and  Fairbanks (even  with one-time                                                                    
grant  funding provided  the  previous  year) the  districts                                                                    
would  face  shortfalls  and layoffs.  The  amendment  would                                                                    
restore  grant  funding  promised  by  the  legislature  the                                                                    
previous  year  and  added  an  amount  to  inflation  proof                                                                    
funding to  the prior year.  He detailed that  the amendment                                                                    
moved funds into education from  places that served a lesser                                                                    
need, including  $17.9 million in unobligated  funds for the                                                                    
controversial  Bragaw Road  in Anchorage  and $6  million in                                                                    
unobligated funds for the Alaska  Energy Authority (AEA) for                                                                    
the  Susitna-Watana Dam.  He stated  that the  $23.9 million                                                                    
funded  the  majority of  the  increase  over grant  funding                                                                    
promised  by the  legislature the  prior  year. He  remarked                                                                    
that it  was not possible  to keep running schools  that cut                                                                    
teachers.  He cited  projections  that  Mat-Su, Juneau,  and                                                                    
Fairbanks would  lay off  over 70  staff (the  layoffs would                                                                    
increase   without   the   one-time   grant   funding).   He                                                                    
underscored that shedding  teachers was not the  way to move                                                                    
the  state's  schools  forward.  He  understood  that  money                                                                    
needed to be  saved; the governor had  proposed roughly $250                                                                    
million in  agency operations cuts and  with the committee's                                                                    
amendments it would have cut a  bit more. He agreed with the                                                                    
governor's goal  to make cuts  without hurting  the economy.                                                                    
He believed it  was possible to make  cuts, while continuing                                                                    
to fund  schools at a  level that would prevent  layoffs. He                                                                    
directed   attention  to   a  memorandum   from  Legislative                                                                    
Research  Services stating  that in  addition to  funds from                                                                    
the education bill  that passed the prior year  [HB 178], an                                                                    
increase   to  the   Base   Student   Allocation  (BSA)   of                                                                    
approximately  $129 was  needed  to keep  up with  inflation                                                                    
(the amount  equaled about $30  million). He added  that the                                                                    
money  from  the  Susita-Watana   Dam  would  not  stop  the                                                                    
progress  on  the  project;  the   money  had  already  been                                                                    
obligated. He  did not  believe the  state could  afford the                                                                    
Bragaw Road until its fiscal house was in order.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt spoke  in  strong  opposition to  the                                                                    
amendment. He  stressed that the  Bragaw Road  project would                                                                    
cut seven  minutes off the  access from his district  to the                                                                    
hospital.  He could  not support  taking money  away from  a                                                                    
project  that   could  save  lives  in   his  community.  He                                                                    
addressed  the Susitna-Watana  project and  stated that  the                                                                    
amendment would  "take from tomorrow  to pay for  today." He                                                                    
relayed  that the  project had  the  opportunity to  provide                                                                    
additional energy opportunities  for Southcentral Alaska. He                                                                    
referred to  a potential  gasline and  hoped that  the state                                                                    
sold the majority  of the gas to the Pacific  Rim for a "ton                                                                    
of money", which would enable  the state to generate its own                                                                    
electricity to  power its own resources.  He understood that                                                                    
the legislature  made a commitment  the previous  session to                                                                    
provide  education funds  at a  specific level;  however, he                                                                    
stressed that  the amendment  proposed allocating  even more                                                                    
funds. He  asserted that  the state was  in a  fiscal crisis                                                                    
and did  not have  the money.  He added  that the  state was                                                                    
short $20,000 per household. He  underscored that it was not                                                                    
possible to get the state's  fiscal house in order by adding                                                                    
money to  projects. He agreed  that education was  worth the                                                                    
money, but  he recognized  that it was  not possible  to add                                                                    
additional funds  to programs. He believed  it was necessary                                                                    
to reanalyze  how the state provided  education to students;                                                                    
it would have to be done with less money.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Gattis, Munoz,  Pruitt,  Saddler, Wilson,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 43 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:31:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  44  [Note:                                                                    
final  three  pages  of  Amendment  44  titled  "Legislative                                                                    
Research Services Research Brief" on file]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Education and Early Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: K-12 Aid to School Districts                                                                                
     ALLOCATION: Additional Foundation Funding                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $32,243.7 UGF (1004)                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  Language: The  sum of$32,243,700  is appropriated                                                                    
     from the  general fund to  the Department  of Education                                                                    
     and Early  Development to be  distributed as  state aid                                                                    
     to districts according to  the average daily membership                                                                    
     for each district  adjusted under AS 14.l7.410(b)(l)(A)                                                                    
     - (D) for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2016.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This  amendment  returns  the  amount  of                                                                    
     funding  promised in  HB  278 passed  in  2014 to  K-12                                                                    
     through the foundation formula.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
restore  $32 million  in the  education funding  formula. He                                                                    
detailed  that a  loss of  the funds  would result  in a  $6                                                                    
million  shortfall  in  Mat-Su,  major cuts  in  Juneau  and                                                                    
Fairbanks, and most likely cuts  in Anchorage. He understood                                                                    
that the  state was facing a  budget crisis and that  it was                                                                    
necessary to determine  how to deal with it.  He stated that                                                                    
the governor's  budget meant a  deficit of $3.5  billion and                                                                    
the  committee's  version  would  mean  a  deficit  of  $3.4                                                                    
billion.  He stressed  that  the bill  would  not solve  the                                                                    
state's budget crisis.  He did not believe  the state should                                                                    
be fixing the  budget on the backs of  children. He reasoned                                                                    
that  decreasing  academic  opportunity would  not  fix  the                                                                    
budget.  He  continued that  fixing  the  budget by  telling                                                                    
parents  that they  could not  count on  the legislature  to                                                                    
fund schools  was not the  way to  fix the budget;  he noted                                                                    
that people would begin considering  moving out of state. He                                                                    
stressed  that the  solution was  short-sighted. He  relayed                                                                    
that the amendment was offered  as a compromise, which would                                                                    
fund  education at  the level  the legislature  promised the                                                                    
previous year.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis emphasized  that  the  state did  not                                                                    
have  the money  to fund  education  at the  same level  the                                                                    
legislature had promised the previous year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler contended that  the budget did not defund                                                                    
education.  He   remarked  on  the   state's  constitutional                                                                    
mandate to  fund education. He  stated that  the legislature                                                                    
took the education mission very  seriously. He discussed the                                                                    
complex funding  formula that took into  account things like                                                                    
school size,  location, expenses,  and other. He  added that                                                                    
the state spent  more on education than on  any other budget                                                                    
item  in   the  state.  He   believed  that  to   claim  the                                                                    
legislature  was   not  funding  the  state's   schools  was                                                                    
disingenuous.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  disputed   the   use   of  the   word                                                                    
disingenuous and stressed that its use was not appropriate.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler disagreed  with the characterization that                                                                    
the  legislature  was not  funding  education.  He found  it                                                                    
"interesting." He opposed the amendment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  spoke about an article  in the Alaska                                                                    
Dispatch  News about  his school  district.  He spoke  about                                                                    
money spent on  expensive lunches and other  for faculty. He                                                                    
stated  that  the  legislature   talked  about  not  funding                                                                    
students, but somehow the state  could carve out substantial                                                                    
money  for things  that  did not  educate  its students.  He                                                                    
believed the state needed to do  a better job at seeking out                                                                    
efficiencies.  He  understood  that   it  was  expensive  to                                                                    
educate  the   state's  students;  however,  he   could  not                                                                    
continue  to  allow  money  to  go  to  entities  that  were                                                                    
spending  funds  on  grant  supplies  at  a  restaurant.  He                                                                    
stressed that the  state could not keep throwing  money at a                                                                    
broken system  and a system  that was abusing the  fact that                                                                    
the legislature did not have  the ability to dictate exactly                                                                    
what schools did.  He elaborated that cuts were  not made to                                                                    
penalize  the  Anchorage  School  District  because  of  the                                                                    
situation.   He  stressed   that  the   state  was   funding                                                                    
education.  He added  that  districts  were not  necessarily                                                                    
choosing to use the money where  it needed to go. He did not                                                                    
believe it  was correct  to add more  money during  a fiscal                                                                    
crisis. He believed  the legislature should look  at how the                                                                    
money was being spent during  the interim. He thought it was                                                                    
an  opportunity to  have  a  better discussion,  potentially                                                                    
about the education formula.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:38:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  supported the amendment.  He agreed                                                                    
that  the state  spent money  on  education, but  it did  so                                                                    
inadequately.  He noted  that there  had been  a significant                                                                    
number of  cuts in  Fairbanks. He  detailed that  the school                                                                    
district   had  been   frugal,  requiring   larger  one-time                                                                    
payments  from the  borough, while  trying to  keep the  K-3                                                                    
classroom levels at  a moderate level. He  stated that there                                                                    
were  schools   in  Fairbanks  that   had  24   hangars  for                                                                    
children's  coats,  but 30  children  in  the classroom.  He                                                                    
stressed  that  that  type  of  system  was  bound  to  have                                                                    
failures. He  believed the state  had done a good  job since                                                                    
the Joint  Legislative Education Task Force  had established                                                                    
what  would be  an adequate  amount of  education funds.  He                                                                    
underscored  that the  state funding  had not  kept up  with                                                                    
inflation in  the past four  years. He relayed  that without                                                                    
the one-time  funding there would  be well over 100  cuts in                                                                    
Fairbanks schools including teachers and staff.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  testified   in  support  of  the                                                                    
amendment. He noted  that Pre-K and Parents  as Teachers had                                                                    
been cut. He emphasized that  there was more than one school                                                                    
district  in  the state.  He  stated  that there  were  many                                                                    
communities that did not want  to see hydrocarbons exported;                                                                    
they  wanted to  use them  locally. He  stressed that  there                                                                    
were many needs  beyond what had been  discussed earlier. He                                                                    
referred to  one school district  that had hung up  the band                                                                    
instruments  long ago  [due  to a  lack  of funding];  other                                                                    
school  districts   farther  west  could  no   longer  visit                                                                    
legislators to discuss their schools  because funds were not                                                                    
available.  He  believed  that   the  state  needed  to  put                                                                    
additional  funding  in  classrooms.   He  referred  to  the                                                                    
commitment the  legislature had made to  education the prior                                                                    
year and  remarked that it  may be harder  to live up  to in                                                                    
the current year; however, he  emphasized that education was                                                                    
the  single  most important  thing  done  in the  state.  He                                                                    
believed it  was terrible that  there was almost  nothing in                                                                    
the bill  that looked to  the "other side of  the equation."                                                                    
He stated  that legislators could  choose to take  funds out                                                                    
of their  school districts, but  teachers had been  laid off                                                                    
in Fairbanks.  He stated that  the loss of teachers  and the                                                                    
rising number  of children  in classrooms  were problematic.                                                                    
He contended  that the  excuse that the  state did  not have                                                                    
the funds was  one side of the equation,  but simply cutting                                                                    
and   saying  that   the  funds   were  not   available  was                                                                    
irresponsible.  He underscored  the importance  of examining                                                                    
what it was the state was  actually doing when money was not                                                                    
put into the classrooms or school districts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg  continued   that  schools   had                                                                    
budgeted for the  current year based on  the commitment made                                                                    
by  the legislature  the prior  year. He  remarked that  the                                                                    
state  was  providing  less  support all  of  the  time.  He                                                                    
stressed that the  amount in the amendment  barely moved the                                                                    
line on the  graph on the state's needs and  the deficit. He                                                                    
commented that  the legislature would  go through  the cycle                                                                    
again the upcoming year and  it would be harder. He believed                                                                    
the $32.2 million  should be restored to  the state's school                                                                    
districts.  He stated  that schools  were  expecting it.  He                                                                    
added that some schools were  not having parties or spending                                                                    
money  on lavish  items. He  emphasized that  some districts                                                                    
had been hard  hit for a long time. He  expounded that there                                                                    
were  some  beautiful  new  schools  in  rural  Alaska,  but                                                                    
maintaining them and retaining  teachers was challenging. He                                                                    
believed the  amendment was  the right thing  to do  even in                                                                    
the face of declining revenues.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:44:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz, Gara                                                                                     
OPPOSED: Gattis, Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Edgmon, Thompson,                                                                     
Neuman                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 44 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:44:50 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:54:42 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 45:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Kawasaki, Guttenberg and                                                                       
     Gara                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Statewide Services                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 3,691.7                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Office of Information Technology                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 2,224.3                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: System wide Education and Outreach                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 257.8                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Anchorage Campus                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 6,777.8                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Small Business Development Center                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 47.5                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Kenai Peninsula College                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 329.4                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Kodiak College                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 122.6                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Matanuska-Susitna College                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 234.2                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Prince William Sound College                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 147.6                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Bristol Bay Campus                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 66.8                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Chukchi Campus                                                                                                 
     ADD: $ 45.6                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: College of Rural and Community Development                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 276.9                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Fairbanks Campus                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 7,555.4                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Interior-Aleutians Campus                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 82.5                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Kuskokwim Campus                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 147.4                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Northwest Campus                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 76.7                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Fairbanks Organized Research                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 922.8                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: UAF Community and Technical College                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 269.5                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Cooperative Extension Service                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 50.0                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Juneau Campus                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 1,405.3                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Ketchikan Campus                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 116.2                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: University of Alaska                                                                                           
     APPROPRIATION: University of Alaska                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION: Sitka Campus                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $ 152.0                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  relayed  that the  passage  of  an                                                                    
earlier amendment meant the section  numbers in Amendment 45                                                                    
were incorrect. He WITHDREW Amendment  45 with the intention                                                                    
of introducing a similar amendment on the House floor.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg WITHDREW  Amendments 46 through 47                                                                    
(copy on file).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW Amendments  48 through 49 (copy                                                                    
on file).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 50:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, and                                                                          
     Kawasaki                                                                                                                   
     DEPARTMENT: Education                                                                                                      
     APPROPRIATION: Teaching and Learning Support                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Alaska Learning Network                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $599.7 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     EXPLANATION: GovAmd cut the  Alaska Learning Network by                                                                    
     $250,000  and  the  House Subcommittee  eliminated  the                                                                    
     program. This  amendment returns  the funding  level to                                                                    
     the GovAmd level.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
restore subcommittee  reductions to the  governor's proposal                                                                    
on the Alaska  Learning Network (AKLN). He  explained that a                                                                    
merit  scholarship implemented  by  former Governor  Parnell                                                                    
required courses that were unavailable  in many rural school                                                                    
districts.  He detailed  that AKLN  had been  implemented to                                                                    
make  the  necessary  courses   available  online  to  rural                                                                    
districts  to ensure  students had  an equal  opportunity to                                                                    
qualify  for  the  scholarships.  He  stated  that  Governor                                                                    
Walker  had  responsibly  included   the  increment  in  his                                                                    
proposed budget,  while achieving  his goal of  $250 million                                                                    
in agency operations budget cuts.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson stated  that  the  program had  begun                                                                    
with  federal  stimulus  funding. She  relayed  that  school                                                                    
districts had been  advised to not count on  the funds being                                                                    
back filled  once federal funding ended;  districts had been                                                                    
asked  to determine  how to  self-sustain  the program.  She                                                                    
stated that  schools could self-sustain the  program because                                                                    
they  received state  funding for  high school  classes. She                                                                    
elaborated that the  intent had been for  districts to share                                                                    
programs  with other  districts.  She stated  that AKLN  was                                                                    
never  meant to  be a  stand-alone program.  She pointed  to                                                                    
districts  with a  high number  of online  courses including                                                                    
Kenai, Mat-Su, and Ketchikan. She  added that the University                                                                    
of  Alaska Southeast  (UAS)  had been  the  entity that  had                                                                    
"gathered it  from within." She  believed the  program could                                                                    
continue,  but with  funding  already  provided through  the                                                                    
BSA.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:59:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis spoke in  opposition to the amendment.                                                                    
She discussed that AKLN had  recently moved over to UAS. She                                                                    
relayed that  the initial program strategy  was not working;                                                                    
therefore, it  had joined a program  called Apex [Learning].                                                                    
She  noted that  it was  unfortunate  that AKLN  acted as  a                                                                    
"middle  man" between  itself and  the school  district. She                                                                    
stated that  currently AKLN was  expensive and cost  $150 to                                                                    
$200  per student,  per class,  per  semester. Whereas  Apex                                                                    
cost $125  per student, per  semester, for any  given number                                                                    
of classes.  She explained that  Mat-Su currently  used Apex                                                                    
and  had agreed  to  share its  licenses;  the state  wanted                                                                    
schools  to  perfect  their  program  and  share  it  across                                                                    
district  lines. She  elaborated  that  Mat-Su indicated  it                                                                    
would work  with other districts.  She concluded  that there                                                                    
were  alternate  programs  to  AKLN;  Apex  was  a  national                                                                    
program  that could  be purchased  directly  or shared  with                                                                    
other school districts.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Kawasaki  testified   in  support   of  the                                                                    
amendment. He  stated that  there was a  myth that  AKLN was                                                                    
only  for   rural  schools;  however,  there   was  a  large                                                                    
participation  Fairbanks. He  furthered that  AKLN currently                                                                    
served every  school district and  offered over  100 courses                                                                    
including  ones needed  for the  performance scholarship  in                                                                    
addition  to advanced  placement  courses.  He believed  the                                                                    
program  was  a  bargain,  provided efficiency,  and  had  a                                                                    
course completion rate of almost  80 percent. He opined that                                                                    
it did not make sense for  every school district to have its                                                                    
own online  courses, which was  the reason for  the creation                                                                    
of  AKLN.  He believed  the  model  should be  enhanced  and                                                                    
replicated.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz testified in  support of the amendment.                                                                    
She discussed her support of  the mining training program in                                                                    
Juneau.  She  recalled  that in  the  past  former  Governor                                                                    
Parnell had  attended one  of the  training classes  and had                                                                    
been  inspired by  the  statewide reach  of  the online  UAS                                                                    
classroom, which  had prompted his inclusion  of the concept                                                                    
in  education  funding  legislation approved  in  2014.  She                                                                    
shared  that the  program  had been  successful  in a  short                                                                    
period of time;  UAS had seen the program  increase from 100                                                                    
students  to 300  students at  present.  She struggled  with                                                                    
taking away the  opportunity right when it  was beginning to                                                                    
get going.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz, Edgmon, Gara                                                                             
OPPOSED: Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Gattis, Thompson, Neuman                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 50 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW Amendment 51 (copy on file).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
6:06:15 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:06:29 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg WITHDREW  Amendment  52 (copy  on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 53:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Guttenberg and Gara                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Business Partnerships                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Business Services                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $456.0 UGF 1004                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   Despite   low   oil   prices   and   low                                                                    
     production, continuing loss  of older, retiring workers                                                                    
     who must  be replaced means the-workforce  needs around                                                                    
     1,000   new  construction   workers  each   year.  This                                                                    
     amendment restores  the Career and  Technical Education                                                                    
     Plan's  Oil and  Gas  Training  Program to  accommodate                                                                    
    industry needs with Alaska-trained Alaska workers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  explained   that  the  amendment                                                                    
would restore  $456,000 [UGF] for  the Career  and Technical                                                                    
Education   Plan's  Oil   and  Gas   Training  Program.   He                                                                    
highlighted  that  the  oil and  gas  industry  was  growing                                                                    
regardless of  flow-through capacity on the  North Slope. He                                                                    
elaborated that  the state was  providing the  industry with                                                                    
tax credits  and other incentives  to encourage  the growth.                                                                    
He discussed  the challenge with  an aging  workforce; there                                                                    
were  approximately 2,000  people  retiring  or leaving  the                                                                    
industry workforce  per year. He  believed the  state needed                                                                    
to train its  residents to compete with workers  from out of                                                                    
state for  the high  skilled and high  paying jobs,  some of                                                                    
which were  industry specific. He believed  the training was                                                                    
a basic function the state should provide.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
Representative Wilson stressed that  the state was providing                                                                    
training opportunities for its  youth and adults. She stated                                                                    
that the University, the  Alaska Vocational Technical Center                                                                    
(AVTEC),  and  other  schools were  providing  training  for                                                                    
residents.  She believed  that per  capita  Alaska had  more                                                                    
training  opportunities than  anywhere  else. She  discussed                                                                    
other  employers such  as the  construction industry,  small                                                                    
businesses, and unions. She stated  that the program was not                                                                    
able  to  provide  statistics  on how  many  people  it  was                                                                    
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Kawasaki, Gara, Guttenberg                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 53 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg WITHDREW  Amendment  54 (copy  on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 55:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY: Representatives  Kawasaki, Guttenberg  and                                                                    
     Gara                                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Natural Resources                                                                                              
     APPROPRIATION: Land & Water Resources                                                                                      
     ALLOCATION: Forest Management & Development                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,292.9 (UGF) $400.0 Timber Rep.                                                                                     
     POSITIONS: Add 11 PFT Positions                                                                                            
     EXPLANATION: This  funding supports  ten state  jobs in                                                                    
     SE  Alaska that  are essential  to the  region's timber                                                                    
     industry.    These    positions   perform    all    the                                                                    
     infrastructure  prep  work   that  allows  the  private                                                                    
     sector  to perform  the logging.  They are  responsible                                                                    
     for building bridges, creating  roads and marking trees                                                                    
     for  harvest. The  SE Alaska  logging industry  is much                                                                    
     more  than just  chopping  down trees.  These logs  are                                                                    
     then barged  to lumber  mills where they  are converted                                                                    
     to  building material.  The closure  of the  offices in                                                                    
     Ketchikan,  Juneau and  Haines would  decimate, if  not                                                                    
     absolutely  eliminate, this  industry and  be extremely                                                                    
     detrimental    to    the    economic    vitality    and                                                                    
     diversification of the region.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  referred to  an amendment  that had                                                                    
passed  earlier in  the  meeting  restoring three  Ketchikan                                                                    
positions  and  one  Juneau  position  [in  the  DNR  Forest                                                                    
Management  and  Development  budget]. He  still  had  great                                                                    
concerns that the additions would  not be adequate enough to                                                                    
match  anticipated  timber  receipts. Additionally,  he  was                                                                    
concerned about the potential for  loss of firewood sales in                                                                    
the  Interior given  resident's reliance  on wood  for fuel.                                                                    
He  WITHDREW  the  amendment  with   the  intent  to  gather                                                                    
additional information.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 56:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Guttenberg and Gara                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION:    Commissioner    and    Administrative                                                                    
     Services                                                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION: Commissioner's Office                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS: 2 PFTs                                                                                                          
     Restore PCNs 07-1003 and 07-1037                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   Maintain   the   $321.9   General   Fund                                                                    
     reduction,  but not  by  PCN.  Commissioners should  be                                                                    
     allowed  to  craft  and  manage  their  top  management                                                                    
     teams,  without  position-by-position instruction  from                                                                    
     the Legislature.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  explained   that  the  amendment                                                                    
would  delete  a reference  to  PCNs  in a  budget  closeout                                                                    
report for the  DLWD Commissioner's Office. He  felt that it                                                                    
made  sense   for  the  commissioner   to  decide   the  top                                                                    
management  positions. He  stated  that the  issue of  which                                                                    
PCNs   [position  control   numbers]  get   used  had   been                                                                    
contentious  for  years.  He stated  that  it  appeared  the                                                                    
legislature  was targeting  specific people.  He noted  that                                                                    
there  were approximately  800 DLWD  employees. The  current                                                                    
budget would eliminate one of  the two deputy commissioners,                                                                    
the  legislative  liaison,  and   a  public  relations  (PR)                                                                    
position.  He requested  allowing the  commissioner to  make                                                                    
the decision.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
Representative   Wilson  commented   that  every   year  the                                                                    
legislature  heard about  the  number  of vacant  positions;                                                                    
money was  kept for vacant  positions as well.  She believed                                                                    
sometimes  it was  necessary to  decide  whether two  deputy                                                                    
commissioners were needed by the  department. She noted that                                                                    
there were three other  positions including a communications                                                                    
director, special  assistant, and PR position.  She wondered                                                                    
about  the  need  for  a   legislative  liaison  within  the                                                                    
departments;  she thought  it would  be easier  to call  the                                                                    
person  in   charge.  She  believed  the   deletion  of  the                                                                    
positions showed  that the legislature  was working  to make                                                                    
government leaner.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon spoke in  support of the amendment. He                                                                    
remarked that  the amendment  did not  change the  amount of                                                                    
money that had been deleted,  it just deleted a reference to                                                                    
specific PCNs.  He spoke to  consistency and noted  that the                                                                    
legislature  had  not  identified specific  PCNs  for  other                                                                    
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Edgmon, Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                    
OPPOSED: Munoz,  Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson,  Gattis, Thompson,                                                                    
Neuman                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 56 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg WITHDREW Amendment 57.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 58:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Guttenberg and Gara                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Public Health                                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Bureau of Vital Statistics                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $168.2 General Fund Program Receipts 1005 (DGF)                                                                       
     POSITIONS: 2 PFTs (PCNs 06-1760 and 06-1761)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  If  the  Fairbanks field  office  of  the                                                                    
     Bureau  of  Vital  Statistics can  be  closed  and  its                                                                    
     services  provided on  line, the  Anchorage and  Juneau                                                                    
     field  offices  can  do the  same.  This  amendment  is                                                                    
     intended  to place  the entire  system  up for  further                                                                    
     discussion.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  explained   the  current  budget                                                                    
would  eliminate  two  positions  and  close  the  Fairbanks                                                                    
Bureau  of  Vital Statistics.  The  rationale  was that  the                                                                    
services could be provided online.  Under the same rationale                                                                    
he wondered  why the offices  would not be  closed statewide                                                                    
for  greater efficiencies.  The  amendment  was intended  to                                                                    
point out the discrepancy of  closing one office for work to                                                                    
be  done  online,  while  leaving  other  offices  open.  He                                                                    
reasoned that work  could be done online for  one office, it                                                                    
could be  done online for  all of the offices.  He commented                                                                    
that  the discussion  would  be ongoing  in  the future.  He                                                                    
WITHDREW Amendment 58.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 59:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Guttenberg and Gara                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Natural Resources                                                                                              
     APPROPRIATION: Land and Water Resources                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION: Geological and Geophysical Surveys                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: 1,000.0 UGF 1004                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS:  4  PFTs:  airborne  geophysics  supervising                                                                    
     geologist;   coal/geothermal    geological   scientist;                                                                    
     technical/software   assistant;    and   administrative                                                                    
     assistant                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   Continued   mapping   of   mineral   and                                                                    
     geothermal resources  is a  critical first  step toward                                                                    
     advancing   the   development  of   Alaskans'   natural                                                                    
     resource wealth. New mining is  wholly dependent on new                                                                    
     surveys  of previously  unmapped areas,  and uncovering                                                                    
     new  energy sources  is vitally  important to  reducing                                                                    
     energy costs  for Alaskans,  especially those  in rural                                                                    
     parts of  the state. Private industry  does very little                                                                    
     of  this   sort  of  work,   and  when  it   does,  the                                                                    
     information is  proprietary. The state's  program makes                                                                    
     public  not  only  the  initial   maps,  but  the  very                                                                    
     valuable    ground-trothed    mapping   and    sampling                                                                    
     information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  explained   that  the  amendment                                                                    
applied to  the DNR  Geological and Geophysical  Surveys. He                                                                    
detailed  that   the  division  provided  unique   work.  He                                                                    
explained  that   when  mineral  exploration   surveys  were                                                                    
conducted the  mining companies followed  up by  staking the                                                                    
ground with claims.  He stated that there  was a significant                                                                    
backlog  of information  the  office  could address  without                                                                    
expending high  end helicopter time. He  elaborated that the                                                                    
employees could  work for years  on bringing  information up                                                                    
to date  and making it  available. He spoke to  the specific                                                                    
publications  specialist position  that was  responsible for                                                                    
publishing information  for the  public. He stated  that the                                                                    
budget cut  would eliminate the state's  capacity to develop                                                                    
mining  resources.  He  detailed   that  without  the  work,                                                                    
someone looking  to conduct resource development  would only                                                                    
have old  records available. He  had located  information on                                                                    
the  website  about mineral  exploration  in  the Ray  River                                                                    
north of  the Yukon and  was amazed at the  extensive nature                                                                    
of the information. He stressed  that the elimination of the                                                                    
four  positions   and  program  would  eliminate   data  and                                                                    
research on  mining exploration.  He remarked that  it would                                                                    
be  difficult  to  bring  skilled   workers  back  into  the                                                                    
positions at a later time  if the program was mothballed. He                                                                    
pointed to mines that had  benefited from the work including                                                                    
Greens  Creek,   Pogo,  and   mines  around   Livengood  and                                                                    
Kotzebue.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  spoke   against  the  amendment.  He                                                                    
stated  that   the  reduction  had  been   included  in  the                                                                    
governor's proposed  budget. He agreed that  the service was                                                                    
beneficial to  the industry in Alaska;  however, he believed                                                                    
that  it was  a service  the  state could  "pull back  from"                                                                    
during revenue shortfalls. He  understood the challenges the                                                                    
reduction could  present, but there  would be  challenges in                                                                    
all  of  the  departments.   He  acknowledged  that  private                                                                    
industry may not  do some of the work, but  there were other                                                                    
opportunities and significant  information was available. In                                                                    
light of  the challenges that  the state faced,  he believed                                                                    
the state could focus its money elsewhere in DNR.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Pruitt, Saddler,  Wilson,  Edgmon, Gattis,  Munoz,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 59 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:24:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 60:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Labor and Workforce Development                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Vocational Rehabilitation                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION: Special Projects                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $118.4 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This  amendment restores  the  Governor's                                                                    
     cut   to   the   Interpreter  Referral   Program.   The                                                                    
     Interpreter  Referral   Program  Provides  face-to-face                                                                    
     interpreters for deaf Alaskans  so they can communicate                                                                    
     at  work   and  in   life  activities.   Without  these                                                                    
     services,  the state  would likely  pay more  in social                                                                    
    services for deaf Alaskans who are unable to work.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  remarked that Representative  Munoz had                                                                    
introduced  the  same amendment  and  there  had been  mixed                                                                    
signals about whether  it was needed. He  relayed that there                                                                    
was a  decrement in  the governor's  budget of  $118,000 for                                                                    
two  referral services  for deaf  Alaskans in  Southeast and                                                                    
the  Interior.  He  stated that  under  the  Americans  with                                                                    
Disabilities  Act  and  according to  DLWD,  employers  were                                                                    
supposed  to provide  the services;  however, few  employers                                                                    
actually  provided  the  services.  He  stated  that  public                                                                    
testimony from the deaf community  had been adamant that the                                                                    
services improved  their lives and  ability to get  work and                                                                    
communicate  with  employers.  He  stressed  that  employers                                                                    
should  be providing  the services,  but that  was different                                                                    
than what was  actually being done. He  underscored that the                                                                    
burden in  life for a  deaf person was  already significant.                                                                    
He  believed  the  program  should   be  continued  with  an                                                                    
instruction  to   the  DLWD   commissioner  that   the  deaf                                                                    
community needed help and employers  should be following the                                                                    
law. He opined  that the decrement should  be restored until                                                                    
deaf individuals were able to  access a referral service for                                                                    
an interpreter when needed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson referred  to a  letter from  the DLWD                                                                    
commissioner  and  remarked that  it  did  not specify  that                                                                    
someone  ensured  who paid  for  the  referral service.  She                                                                    
noted  that  the  letter  specified that  if  the  need  was                                                                    
personal  it should  be paid  by the  individual; if  it was                                                                    
business  related it  should be  paid by  the business.  She                                                                    
opined that  restoring the  funding meant  that a  person in                                                                    
need of the service would  be contacting a person to arrange                                                                    
for  the  interpreter  versus connecting  directly  with  an                                                                    
interpreter.   She   believed   the   issue   discussed   by                                                                    
Representative Gara was separate  and related to whether the                                                                    
state was  ensuring that whoever was  responsible for paying                                                                    
for  an   interpreter  service  was  actually   paying.  She                                                                    
believed  the concern  may be  legitimate, but  she did  not                                                                    
believe  the  increment  proposed  in  the  amendment  would                                                                    
address the issue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler believed  the interpreter  referral line                                                                    
was essentially  a "market maker."  He surmised  that people                                                                    
in the  deaf community  requiring interpreter  services knew                                                                    
who  the limited  number of  interpreters were.  He remarked                                                                    
that  it was  in the  interpreters' interest  to make  their                                                                    
contact  information available  to the  community they  were                                                                    
serving.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  commented that no one  was claiming the                                                                    
state should  be paying for  the interpreters.  He clarified                                                                    
that payment for interpreter  service was the responsibility                                                                    
of  an  individual  or  employer.  He  explained  that  deaf                                                                    
individuals could  contact the interpreter  referral service                                                                    
through its TTY machine to  find an interpreter. He believed                                                                    
that the  numerous people  who had  testified in  support of                                                                    
the service would  not have come forward if  the service was                                                                    
not needed.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Saddler, Wilson,  Edgmon,  Gattis, Munoz,  Pruitt,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 60 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg WITHDREW Amendment 61.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:30:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 62:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Kawasaki, Guttenberg and                                                                       
     Gara                                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Public Assistance                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION: Senior Benefits Payment Program                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $5,871.2 (UGF). Restores funding to the FY 16                                                                         
     Adjusted Base level. Reverses FY l6 GovEndo cut.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Alaska faces  exponential  growth in  the                                                                    
     senior  population  with  a   doubling  of  the  senior                                                                    
     population  in the  next 10  years  (roughly 70,000  to                                                                    
     140,000). The Senior  Benefits Payment Program provides                                                                    
     vital supplemental  funding to low-income  seniors that                                                                    
     allow them to  stay in their homes.  Keeping seniors at                                                                    
     home  saves the  state thousands  of dollars  and slows                                                                    
     their move up  the continuum of care.  With the pending                                                                    
     Senior Tsunami, it is prudent  to invest in cost saving                                                                    
     measures that  will reduce spending  later. Eligibility                                                                    
     is income  based and is divided  into three categories;                                                                    
     75 percent, 100 percent and  175 percent of the Federal                                                                    
     Poverty Level.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki disagreed  with some  components of                                                                    
the  governor's proposed  budget  including  "deep cuts"  to                                                                    
education and  the senior benefit program.  He remarked that                                                                    
the  committee  had the  ability  to  change the  cuts.  The                                                                    
amendment sought to restore funding  to adjusted base levels                                                                    
for  the  Senior  Benefits   Payment  Program,  which  would                                                                    
reverse the  governor's proposed cuts. He  detailed that the                                                                    
program applied  to individuals  age 65  and older,  many of                                                                    
whom  lived  on   a  fixed  income.  He   expounded  that  a                                                                    
recipient's  average age  was 75;  the oldest  recipient was                                                                    
104. He  furthered that most  of the recipients  were female                                                                    
widowers. He stressed  that the 27 percent  cut would impact                                                                    
individuals  with  household  incomes  between  75  and  175                                                                    
percent  of  the  poverty   level  (roughly  10,000  seniors                                                                    
statewide).  He elaborated  that  the  payments ranged  from                                                                    
$100 to $175 per month; there  was a gross annual income cap                                                                    
for married  couples of  $35,000. He  added that  there were                                                                    
seniors in the  program who were well below  the income cap.                                                                    
He noted  that debate  had occurred on  the House  floor the                                                                    
prior year  when senior benefits  had been  reinstituted. He                                                                    
stressed that  the reduction would hurt  the most vulnerable                                                                    
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler spoke in opposition  to the amendment. He                                                                    
countered that  the neediest  Alaskans were  protected under                                                                    
the current version of the  budget. He elaborated that there                                                                    
were  three  levels of  senior  benefits;  the lowest  level                                                                    
(individuals  earning less  than 75  percent of  the federal                                                                    
poverty level)  still received the  full $250 per  month. He                                                                    
remarked   that  the   reduction   meant  that   individuals                                                                    
receiving  $125  per  month would  receive  $100  and  those                                                                    
receiving  $175 per  month would  receive $140.  He believed                                                                    
the funding  reflected compassion  to the  neediest seniors,                                                                    
while  taking into  account the  state's  limited funds.  He                                                                    
added  that the  payment  was income-based;  someone with  a                                                                    
fixed  income  may have  assets  such  as a  home,  savings,                                                                    
stocks, and other. He concluded  that the 20 percent cut had                                                                    
been proposed by  the governor. He cited  the statistic that                                                                    
the senior  population would double  in Alaska by 2026  as a                                                                    
good  reason for  the  state  to consider  how  much of  its                                                                    
limited  financial resources  it should  spend. He  believed                                                                    
the reduction was responsible.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:34:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 62 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:35:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 63:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Early Childhood Grants for Disabled                                                                            
     Infants and Young Children                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $237.3 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: This restores a Subcommittee cut to the                                                                       
     most needy, harmed foster youth and the cut will cost                                                                      
     the state more than it saves in the long run.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  explained the  effort by the  Office of                                                                    
Children's Services  (OCS) to screen the  most vulnerable of                                                                    
the state's 2,400  foster youth. He detailed  that the grant                                                                    
for  disabled  infants and  young  children  allowed OCS  to                                                                    
contract to  screen children for cognitive  disabilities and                                                                    
any services that  were needed in the case  of a disability.                                                                    
He highlighted  that foster  parents were  hard to  find for                                                                    
children  with  Fetal  Alcohol   Syndrome  (FAS)  or  severe                                                                    
disabilities. He  stressed that  taking away the  ability to                                                                    
screen the  youth it would  become more challenging  to find                                                                    
foster  parents. He  did not  support  the cut  made by  the                                                                    
governor.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler appreciated  the clarification  that the                                                                    
cut  had been  made  by  the governor.  He  stated that  the                                                                    
$237,000 was only a 2.5  percent reduction to the grants. He                                                                    
detailed  that  $10  million  remained  in  Early  Childhood                                                                    
Services.  He  believed  the "modest"  cut  was  responsible                                                                    
given  the state's  budget challenges.  He added  that there                                                                    
were  alternative ways  for  children  and infant  screening                                                                    
including the  Infant Learning  Program, Child  Find Program                                                                    
in schools, and waivers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:37:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  countered  that  regardless  of  other                                                                    
services, the  program had provided  services to  over 2,000                                                                    
children for things other screeners had not found.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Edgmon, Gattis,  Munoz,  Pruitt, Saddler,  Wilson,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 63 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:39:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment 64  [Note: a                                                                    
copy of  the backup material  provided by the  Department of                                                                    
Health and Social  Services attached to the  amendment is on                                                                    
file.]:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Family Preservation                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $2,938.4 UGF (1004)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  The Office  of Children's  Services plans                                                                    
     to partner  with the Division  of Public  Assistance to                                                                    
     use  available  T ANF  grants  to  provide funding  for                                                                    
     Child Advocacy Centers with  federal funds. The receipt                                                                    
     authority  in  the  Division of  Public  Assistance  is                                                                    
     already present.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Family Preservation                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $2,938.4 VA Receipt Authority (1007)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  In  order  to   use  Division  of  Public                                                                    
     Assistance  grants, the  Office of  Children's Services                                                                    
     requires Interagency Receipt authority.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Front Line Social Workers                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $2,726.7 UGF (1004); $681.7 Fed (1002)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS: ADD: 28 PFT positions                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: The Office  of Children's Services suffers                                                                    
     from  a severe  shortage of  support staff,  Front Line                                                                    
     Caseworkers,  licensing staff,  and Independent  Living                                                                    
     Program  staff who  help youth  succeed as  adults with                                                                    
     job training  and education. The caseload  in Anchorage                                                                    
     and the  Matsu is 70  percent higher than  the national                                                                    
     standard. Adding  these positions  will get us  much of                                                                    
     the way to  the recommendations in the  2012 study that                                                                    
     recommended 45  new positions at  OCS. Since  that 2012                                                                    
     study, we  have seen an  increase of 600  foster youth,                                                                    
     meaning that  our staff shortage  has grown  since that                                                                    
     study.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The additional  federal receipt authority  is due  to a                                                                    
     20%  federal  match  on the  $2,726.7  devoted  to  the                                                                    
     allocation  category  for  these staff  of  front  line                                                                    
     social workers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Family Preservation                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $211.3 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   This  adds   $211.3  GF   to  Employment                                                                    
     Training Vouchers. The funds  are going to assist youth                                                                    
     aging  out of  foster  care in  attending job  training                                                                    
     programs,   continued   education   and   postsecondary                                                                    
     education,  so that  they  can successfully  transition                                                                    
     into being independent  adults who do not  need to rely                                                                    
     on expensive state services.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD A LANGUAGE SECTION.                                                                                                    
     If any portion of the  $2,938,400 federal T ANF funding                                                                    
     that  will  be  used  to  support  the  Child  Advocacy                                                                    
     Centers  in   the  Department  of  Health   and  Social                                                                    
     Services,  Family Preservation,  is not  received, that                                                                    
     amount is appropriated from the  general fund to Family                                                                    
     Preservation and  an equal  amount is  decremented from                                                                    
     the  Department of  Health and  Social Services,  Front                                                                    
     Line Social Workers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  relayed that  he  had  worked hard  to                                                                    
locate cost-effective  methods to  fix a broken  foster care                                                                    
system. He detailed that 40  percent of the youth coming out                                                                    
of care  were either  homeless or  "couch surf."  He relayed                                                                    
that couch  surfing was  no longer  included in  the federal                                                                    
definition  of  homelessness;  therefore,  the  homelessness                                                                    
rate had been reduced from  40 percent to 20 percent without                                                                    
getting  homeless youth  in homes.  He communicated  that 24                                                                    
percent of  the youth  ended up  in jail.  He referred  to a                                                                    
2011  workload  study  that  OCS was  short  by  roughly  50                                                                    
support  staff (there  had been  approximately 1,700  foster                                                                    
youth  at  the  time  compared to  2,400  at  present).  The                                                                    
department  had testified  that it  did not  have sufficient                                                                    
staff to meet  the national standard of a  youth visit every                                                                    
30  days. Youth  visits  enabled staff  to  detect signs  of                                                                    
harm, neglect, abuse,  and to act as a  stable influence for                                                                    
children. He  stressed that OCS  was missing cases  of abuse                                                                    
and  harm because  it was  under-staffed. He  discussed that                                                                    
Anchorage and  Mat-Su caseloads exceeded  national standards                                                                    
by roughly 70 percent, which  caused caseworkers to burn out                                                                    
on average  every 18  months. He discussed  that due  to the                                                                    
high  caseworker  burnout  rate youths  saw  many  different                                                                    
social workers over time, which  was damaging to youths with                                                                    
no stability  in their lives.  He stated that  the amendment                                                                    
would  provide the  ability for  OCS  to come  close to  the                                                                    
number  of caseworkers  it  needed;  caseworkers who  worked                                                                    
with  families and  youth  and to  ensure  families did  not                                                                    
leave the  foster care system.  He elaborated  that families                                                                    
were  leaving  the  system  because  they  did  not  receive                                                                    
communication  from caseworkers  due to  high caseloads.  He                                                                    
remarked that a system comprised  of the best foster parents                                                                    
would  save  the  state  a   substantial  amount  of  money.                                                                    
Additionally,  the state  was unable  to work  cases to  get                                                                    
children  into  adoption;  there were  currently  894  youth                                                                    
waiting for  adoption. He elaborated  that the  division did                                                                    
not  have  the  ability  to   reunite  a  child  with  their                                                                    
biological family (if the family  "got its act together") in                                                                    
a timely  manner. He  relayed that some  youth were  only in                                                                    
foster care for a number of  days, while others were in care                                                                    
for 5 to 15 years (the average was between 2.5 to 4 years).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  communicated that  the amendment  was a                                                                    
"no  cost  amendment."  He  explained  that  DHSS  had  been                                                                    
working to leverage federal funding  to cut the state budget                                                                    
and had  qualified for $2.9  million to pay for  the state's                                                                    
child  advocacy  centers.  He   noted  that  the  department                                                                    
supported the  amendment. The  amendment would  transfer the                                                                    
$2.9 million in state funding  for child advocacy centers to                                                                    
OCS,  which would  enable  the  division to  hire  60 to  70                                                                    
percent of  the staff  needed. He emphasized  that increased                                                                    
staff would  reduce the high  burnout rate and  would enable                                                                    
the division to  respond to foster care  parents. He relayed                                                                    
that  $200,000  of the  increment  would  go to  educational                                                                    
training vouchers; the  vouchers went to children  age 16 to                                                                    
23 to  transition them to  jobs, schools, and  job training.                                                                    
He underscored  that the amendment  would add  no additional                                                                    
cost  to  the  state.  He  emphasized  that  the  state  had                                                                    
responsibility for the  crisis in the OCS  system because it                                                                    
had taken the children away  from their parents. He stressed                                                                    
that the  department would  not have  the ability  to repair                                                                    
OCS problems  without staff. He believed  largely the social                                                                    
workers at  OCS worked  very hard  with high  caseloads. The                                                                    
amendment  would help  to  fix the  system.  He believed  it                                                                    
would save money  in the long-term. He stated  that a foster                                                                    
care system where 24 percent of  the youths went to jail, 40                                                                    
percent  needed  housing   assistance,  and  many  collected                                                                    
partially state-funded Medicaid was not cost-effective.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler spoke  against the  amendment. He  noted                                                                    
that the first  couple of sections of Amendment  8 were made                                                                    
moot by  Amendment 8  that deleted $2.9  million in  UGF and                                                                    
added $2.9  million in interagency receipt  authority so the                                                                    
money  could go  back  to OCS  and  Family Preservation.  He                                                                    
stated that Representative Gara's  proposal to use the money                                                                    
would be  considered. He addressed money  that the amendment                                                                    
would allocate to vocational programs.  He stated that there                                                                    
were  other employment  aid  programs  that foster  children                                                                    
qualified  for in  public  schools, construction  academies,                                                                    
Job Corps, Nine Star  Education and Employment Services, job                                                                    
services, and Youth  Corps. He noted that  the only increase                                                                    
he had made in the DHSS  budget was the addition of $250,000                                                                    
UGF for frontline social workers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg calculated that  if 28 percent out                                                                    
of 1,000 youths ended up in jail,  at a jail cost of $58 per                                                                    
day,  it would  cost  the state  $5.3  million annually.  He                                                                    
believed investing in cost-effective  programs was the right                                                                    
thing to  do. He emphasized  that the costs for  prison time                                                                    
could not be avoided.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6:49:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki asked if  there was someone from the                                                                    
department  who  could  speak   to  the  amendment.  He  was                                                                    
concerned with the federal receipt  authority. [There was no                                                                    
one available.]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Munoz, Edgmon                                                                             
OPPOSED: Gattis, Pruitt, Saddler, Wilson, Thompson, Neuman                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 64 FAILED (5/6).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:51:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 65:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Office of Children's Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION: Family Preservation Grants                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $500.0 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment restores  both the Subcommittee's $330.5                                                                    
     cut and the Governor's  $169.5 cut. Family Preservation                                                                    
     Grants are used  to keep families together  so youth do                                                                    
     not end up  in long term foster care. This  not only is                                                                    
     beneficial   for   children,   but  saves   the   state                                                                    
     significant money  in terms of lower  foster care daily                                                                    
     reimbursement  rates, and  in  terms  of relieving  the                                                                    
     pressure  to hire  additional  social workers.  Keeping                                                                    
     families together is much cheaper  than placing kids in                                                                    
     foster care.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara explained that  the amendment would help                                                                    
to save  costs in the  state's foster care system  and would                                                                    
create   opportunity  for   children  in   the  system.   He                                                                    
communicated that  there had been  a $500,000 cut  to family                                                                    
preservation, which  entailed getting youth back  with their                                                                    
parents. He reasoned  that it would save the  state money if                                                                    
parents could be rehabbed and  youth could be returned home;                                                                    
the state  would no longer  have to pay for  foster parents,                                                                    
adoptive parents,  subsidized adoptions,  or $40 to  $50 per                                                                    
day for  the daily  reimbursement rate  (closer to  $100 for                                                                    
children with  disabilities). He noted that  everyone in the                                                                    
social  work  field  agreed  with  the  strategy.  He  hoped                                                                    
members  would  support  the  amendment;  if  they  did  not                                                                    
support it, he  wanted to know why. He  underscored that the                                                                    
program was evidence-based.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:54:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  stated that the governor  had proposed a                                                                    
1.7   percent   reduction   (about   $170,000)   in   family                                                                    
preservation  grants.  The   DHSS  budget  subcommittee  had                                                                    
increased the reduction to a  total of $500,000. He believed                                                                    
the  reduction  was  modest  and  represented  a  5  percent                                                                    
reduction in the close to  $10 million in grant funding that                                                                    
remained. He stated that in  times of fiscal challenges some                                                                    
difficult  reductions  were  needed.   He  opined  that  the                                                                    
reduction was  responsible. He remarked that  the reductions                                                                    
were not ones that anyone  wanted to make. He furthered that                                                                    
the  reductions were  necessary due  to the  state's limited                                                                    
means and  resources. He concluded that  the legislature was                                                                    
doing the  best it could  to allocate the  state's resources                                                                    
to existing needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg   spoke   in  support   of   the                                                                    
amendment. He  discussed his earlier calculation  related to                                                                    
funding for foster care related  services compared to paying                                                                    
to keep  people in  prison. He  remarked that  the committee                                                                    
had just allocated about $250,000  for the Pew Trust to talk                                                                    
about recidivism.  He supported  the decision  and suspected                                                                    
that  a  significant  part of  the  report  would  recommend                                                                    
keeping people out of prison  to begin with. He believed the                                                                    
recidivism question  was legitimate; the State  of Texas had                                                                    
successfully  looked   at  how   to  avoid   the  continuous                                                                    
construction  of prisons.  He discussed  that the  Pew study                                                                    
would  look  at what  the  state  was  not doing,  how  many                                                                    
children were in  foster care, how many should  be in foster                                                                    
care that  were not, the  wait list, and other.  He stressed                                                                    
that if  the state  was serious about  combatting recidivism                                                                    
that  it  would  be  investing   in  items  such  as  family                                                                    
preservation  grants in  the future.  He  stressed that  the                                                                    
state  did  not  want  to be  building  prisons  because  it                                                                    
couldn't keep  its population  out of  jail. He  opined that                                                                    
the family  preservation grants were perfectly  in line with                                                                    
the philosophy  of preventing people  from going to  jail in                                                                    
the first place.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
6:58:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair    Neuman   invited    Representative   Gara    and                                                                    
Representative Guttenberg to  the recidivism reduction group                                                                    
discussions with the Pew Trust.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Gara                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Gattis, Munoz,  Pruitt,  Saddler, Wilson,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 65 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
6:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 66:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Department Support Services                                                                                 
     ALLOCATION: Commissioner's Office                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $500 GIF Match (1003)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $500 I/A Receipts (1007)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Department Support Services                                                                                 
     ALLOCATION: Administrative Support Services                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $3,500 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $3,500 I/A Receipts (1007)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Department Support Services                                                                                 
     ALLOCATION: Information Technology Services                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $500 UGF (1004)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $500 II A Receipts (l007)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   The   HSS  Subcommittee   requires   the                                                                    
     department   to  cut   $4.5   million,   which  is   an                                                                    
     unallocated  cut  that will  harm  the  ability of  the                                                                    
     department's  eight divisions  to assist  Alaska's most                                                                    
     vulnerable    seniors,     children,    and    disabled                                                                    
     individuals.   The   department  cannot   absorb   this                                                                    
     additional cut,  which was proposed  to be used  to pay                                                                    
     for salary and infrastructure costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  explained that  the amendment  told the                                                                    
legislature to  determine where  the waste  and duplications                                                                    
were within  DHSS if  it was going  to cut  the department's                                                                    
budget by $4.5 million. He  disputed claims that the cut was                                                                    
not unallocated.  He stated that the  eight divisions within                                                                    
DHSS  including  divisions   protecting  vulnerable  adults,                                                                    
behavioral health,  OCS, Medicaid, and other,  were asked to                                                                    
charge each  other or the department  for services provided.                                                                    
He  stated  that   the  concept  was  a   "shell  game"  and                                                                    
constituted  $4.5 million  the department  did not  have. He                                                                    
encouraged members  to go after  waste in the  department if                                                                    
they  located  it.  He  was   unsupportive  of  cutting  the                                                                    
department's  budget  by  $4.5 million  without  identifying                                                                    
where  the cuts  would occur.  He remarked  that the  former                                                                    
DHSS commissioner had done a  good job and had located every                                                                    
cut he could. He noted that  in recent years the GF spending                                                                    
on  DHSS  budget  had  decreased  outside  of  Medicaid.  He                                                                    
commented that  Co-Chair Neuman had chaired  the DHSS budget                                                                    
subcommittee for  the past  couple of years  and had  done a                                                                    
compassionate  job. However,  at present  the committee  had                                                                    
been unable to find additional  places to cut; therefore, it                                                                    
had  asked  the   department  to  locate  ways   to  cut  an                                                                    
additional $4.5 million. He stated  that the strategy may be                                                                    
alright for  some departments, but  it did not work  for the                                                                    
department  directed  to  deal   with  the  most  vulnerable                                                                    
seniors,  adults,  and  children.   He  stressed  that  $4.5                                                                    
million in cuts  the department did not know  how to achieve                                                                    
was the wrong  way to go. He understood there  was a need to                                                                    
fix the  budget, but  he did  not support  fixing it  on the                                                                    
backs of the most vulnerable  people in the state. He agreed                                                                    
that it  was necessary to cut  the budget, but it  needed to                                                                    
be done  responsibly. He  agreed with  $250 million  to $300                                                                    
million  in cuts  to agency  operations as  proposed by  the                                                                    
governor, but not if the  locations could not be identified.                                                                    
He requested  working with the department  to identify areas                                                                    
of waste and duplication.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
7:04:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler spoke in opposition  to the amendment. He                                                                    
stated that with reduced  income, reductions were necessary.                                                                    
He stated  that the cut  in question  was $4.5 million  to a                                                                    
$2.7 billion  budget, which equated  to 0.2 percent.  He did                                                                    
not believe  the cut was  extravagant. He believed  the idea                                                                    
that  it was  impossible to  cut government  programs was  a                                                                    
"trope" that would  be of special interest to  people in his                                                                    
district  or elsewhere  in Alaska  who  may find  themselves                                                                    
without a job.  He stressed that for people  to protest that                                                                    
reductions were  not possible was ludicrous.  He stated that                                                                    
people, institutions, and states  had to respond to changing                                                                    
financial   situations.   He   relayed   that   the   budget                                                                    
subcommittee  had made  some targeted  reductions to  reduce                                                                    
expenditures. He  added that the subcommittee  had also made                                                                    
some  targeted increases.  He anticipated  that the  interim                                                                    
would  be spent  learning about  the department  and how  to                                                                    
deal  with   efficiencies  and   other.  He   reasoned  that                                                                    
allocating costs to the division  would allow the department                                                                    
to use other  fund sources in UGF to pay  for core services.                                                                    
He   believed  it   was  not   inappropriate   to  let   the                                                                    
commissioner decide  on reductions  given the  complexity of                                                                    
the department.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   asked  members  to  keep   the  focus  on                                                                    
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  was  frustrated about  waste  within                                                                    
DHSS.   He   spoke   to    recent   Facebook   and   Twitter                                                                    
advertisements  by the  department  advocating for  Medicaid                                                                    
expansion. He believed it indicated  that the department had                                                                    
extra money available that the  legislature could look at to                                                                    
determine  if  it was  being  spent  correctly. He  believed                                                                    
there was  waste within DHSS,  which needed to  be addressed                                                                    
by DHSS.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
7:07:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman noted  that the  chairs  had addressed  the                                                                    
issue with the commissioner.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  testified   in  support  of  the                                                                    
amendment. He  believed that an unallocated  cut transferred                                                                    
the  legislature's  responsibility  to  the  department.  He                                                                    
stated  the legislature  was responsible  for making  policy                                                                    
and that  transferring the responsibility to  the department                                                                    
to make the cuts abdicated the legislature's role.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Gara                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 66 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:09:11 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 67:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Kawasaki, Guttenberg and                                                                       
     Gara                                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Department of Natural Resources                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Division of Agriculture                                                                                     
     ALLOCATION: Farm to School                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $181.0 (UGF).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Health and Social Services                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Public Health                                                                                               
     ALLOCATION:  Chronic  Disease   Prevention  and  Health                                                                    
     Promotion                                                                                                                  
     ADD: $734.7 (UGF).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Restore the  Obesity Prevention  Program.                                                                    
     These additions restore 16Gov  amended levels. In 2013,                                                                    
     65% of Alaskan adults were  overweight or obese and the                                                                    
     state has  high rates  of childhood and  youth obesity.                                                                    
     In 2006 the annual  medical costs for obese individuals                                                                    
     nationwide  were $1,429  higher than  those of  healthy                                                                    
     weight  individuals.   Farm  to  School   brings  local                                                                    
     produce  into  school  lunches.  FTS  fosters  economic                                                                    
     development  in the  agricultural  sector and  promotes                                                                    
     healthy eating  in our schools. The  obesity prevention                                                                    
     program  raises  awareness  for childhood  obesity  and                                                                    
     reduces  health  costs  associated  with  the  epidemic                                                                    
     later in  life. This  small investment today  will save                                                                    
     us tremendous  funds later. Thousands of  Alaskans rely                                                                    
     on these services for balanced  school lunches and non-                                                                    
     bias  information  on  the real-world  consequences  of                                                                    
     obesity.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  explained  the governor  had  made                                                                    
programmatic   cuts  to   the  Department   of  Agriculture,                                                                    
consolidating and  locating efficiencies within  the agency.                                                                    
The  cut deleted  a natural  resource  technician and  other                                                                    
professional  staff and  contracts. He  elaborated that  the                                                                    
specific   contracts   dealt  with   agriculture   projects,                                                                    
marketing, and the  Farm to School program.  He relayed that                                                                    
the  budget subcommittee  had  subsequently  cut the  entire                                                                    
Farm  to  School program.  He  stated  that there  were  two                                                                    
amendments that  addressed the same  issue: one  through DNR                                                                    
and one through DHSS. He  discussed the high cost of obesity                                                                    
in  Alaska;  studies  showed  obesity  cost  close  to  $460                                                                    
million  annually in  direct healthcare  costs. He  reasoned                                                                    
that  by  getting  youth  to   understand  good  health  and                                                                    
nutrition,  the   staggering  costs  could  be   offset.  He                                                                    
surmised that  providing good quality food  through the DHSS                                                                    
Chronic Disease Prevention and  Health Promotion program and                                                                    
offsetting  childhood diabetes  and obesity  would save  the                                                                    
state significant money  in the future. He  believed Farm to                                                                    
School was a  great program that had expanded  over the past                                                                    
couple of  years; there had  been an 11 percent  increase in                                                                    
school  gardens   statewide,  78   percent  of   the  school                                                                    
districts  participate   in  some   form  of   the  program,                                                                    
stretching  from  Barrow,  to  Ketchikan,  to  Unalaska.  He                                                                    
summarized that  the combined amendments addressed  an issue                                                                    
that  the  state  would  need  to  address  in  the  overall                                                                    
conversation  about  healthcare  and  associated  costs.  He                                                                    
believed the programs would bring cost savings.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  remarked jokingly about his  expectation of                                                                    
a  healthy lunch  in  Representative  Kawasaki's office  the                                                                    
following day.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg testified  in support  of funding                                                                    
for the state's Farm to  School program that brought produce                                                                    
into  the school  cafeteria.  He  addressed his  frustration                                                                    
related to the  state of agriculture in  Alaska. He believed                                                                    
there  had  been many  "starts  and  stops" related  to  the                                                                    
program. He  remarked that Alaska  had the lowest  amount of                                                                    
agriculture  support  in  the   country.  He  spoke  to  the                                                                    
importance of food security. He  stressed that farming was a                                                                    
long-term  endeavor;  it was  not  something  that could  be                                                                    
started and stopped. He highlighted  that supporting Farm to                                                                    
School  supported two  sides of  the equation.  He advocated                                                                    
for school gardens and underscored  the benefits the program                                                                    
would provide to everyone.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:14:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  testified  against  the  amendment.  He                                                                    
questioned  whether  it  was  essential  for  the  state  to                                                                    
operate  a  program  to  encourage  kids  to  do  what  they                                                                    
ordinarily would  do by nature  to get outside and  move and                                                                    
play. He agreed  that obesity control was a  good and worthy                                                                    
goal,  but he  did not  believe  it was  an essential  state                                                                    
function. He  could not  believe that  children did  not get                                                                    
exercise  outdoors.  He hoped  the  benefits  of the  Alaska                                                                    
Grown program and fresh produce  grown in-state were seen in                                                                    
the state's schools. He believed  Alaska produce should have                                                                    
the  ability to  compete in  the market.  He spoke  to other                                                                    
health, food, and nutrition programs for children.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  spoke   against  the  amendment.  He                                                                    
discussed a desire to continue  to assist farmers in Alaska.                                                                    
He believed the committee  could agree there were challenges                                                                    
in  the  division;  however,  the goal  was  not  to  punish                                                                    
farmers because of  the challenges. The focus  of the budget                                                                    
subcommittee  had been  to locate  any areas  that were  not                                                                    
directly  benefiting  farmers.  He  appreciated  that  local                                                                    
produce  could  be  brought  to   the  state's  schools.  He                                                                    
summarized that  subcommittee had aimed to  limit the impact                                                                    
the cut had on the  assistance the division could provide to                                                                    
farmers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara believed it  was important to be careful                                                                    
about talking about  how committee members got  to do things                                                                    
as children and assuming that  someone living in some of the                                                                    
poorer areas around the state had the same opportunities.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Kawasaki, Gara, Guttenberg                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 67 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:18:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 68:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          OFFERED  BY: Representatives  Kawasaki, Guttenberg                                                                    
          and Gara                                                                                                              
          DEPARTMENT: Administration                                                                                            
          APPROPRIATION: Public Communication Services                                                                          
          ALLOCATION: Public Broadcasting - Radio                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          ADD: $1,634.0 (UGF).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          DEPARTMENT: Administration                                                                                            
          APPROPRIATION: Public Communication Services                                                                          
          ALLOCATION: Public Broadcasting- T.V.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          ADD: $405.0 (UGF).                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          EXPLANATION:  GovAmd cut  the Public  Broadcasting                                                                    
          Radio  budget by  18.5  percent  ($613.0) and  the                                                                    
          T.V.   budget  by   18   percent  ($150.1).   This                                                                    
          amendment reduces  that cut  to 10 percent  of the                                                                    
          l5MgtPln  budget  and allows  Public  Broadcasting                                                                    
          budgets  to   be  maintained  and   provide  vital                                                                    
          informational  services to  our communities  while                                                                    
          also  cutting the  budget.  Thousands of  Alaskans                                                                    
          rely on these services  for balanced local, state,                                                                    
          federal  and  international news.  Providing  this                                                                    
          funding   will  allow   these  stations   to  find                                                                    
          additional  funding to  prevent  a  large loss  of                                                                    
          service.    Additionally,    public   radio    and                                                                    
          television can  be an  essential service  in times                                                                    
          of  emergency   such  as  floods,   forest  fires,                                                                    
          earthquakes, extreme weather  events and many more                                                                    
          public dangers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki conveyed  his  appreciation for  an                                                                    
earlier  amendment  offered  by  Representative  Edgmon.  He                                                                    
stated  that although  the  earlier  amendment had  restored                                                                    
some funding to public  broadcasting, it still represented a                                                                    
22 percent cut.  He noted that the effects  would be adverse                                                                    
in some communities. He WITHDREW  Amendments 68 and 69 (copy                                                                    
on file).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 70:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representative Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                      
     DEPARTMENT: Legal and Advocacy Services                                                                                    
     APPROPRIATION: Administration                                                                                              
     ALLOCATION: Office of Public Advocacy                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $508.0 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     POSITIONS: Add: 5 PFT positions                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Guardians  ad  Litem (GALs)  advocate  on                                                                    
     behalf  of children,  often taken  from their  parents,                                                                    
     who  have been  determined to  be Children  In Need  of                                                                    
     Aid.   The   GAL    program   is   currently   severely                                                                    
     understaffed. Currently  each GAL serves on  average 88                                                                    
     children.  The   national  recommended  level   is  40.                                                                    
     Without  adequate staffing,  the GALs  are not  able to                                                                    
     advocate for the vulnerable youth  they are supposed to                                                                    
     help  by  letting  the  courts  know  their  treatment,                                                                    
     educational,  and  other  needs.  The  GALs  often  are                                                                    
     unable to  get to know  the youth they are  supposed to                                                                    
     represent.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara explained  the amendment.  He discussed                                                                    
that guardians ad litem represented  Children in Need of Aid                                                                    
in court.  The positions  were housed  within the  Office of                                                                    
Public Advocacy  and had  some of  the highest  caseloads in                                                                    
the country.  The recommended  caseload was  somewhere below                                                                    
40 children; the caseloads turned  over quickly, which meant                                                                    
a caseworker saw hundreds of  children during a year's time.                                                                    
The caseload in Alaska had  an average of 88 children, which                                                                    
meant  the guardians  often met  children in  court for  the                                                                    
first  time. He  stressed that  a  good lawyer  got to  know                                                                    
their client; a guardian ad litem  who did not have the time                                                                    
to know their  client could not represent  their client. The                                                                    
amendment   aimed  at   reducing  caseloads   by  adding   5                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg Kawasaki                                                                                             
OPPOSED:  Munoz, Pruitt,  Saddler,  Wilson, Edgmon,  Gattis,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 70 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki  WITHDREW  Amendment  71  (copy  on                                                                    
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:21:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW Amendment 72 (copy on file).                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 73:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Guttenberg and Gara                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Administration                                                                                                 
     APPROPRIATION: Legal and Advocacy Services                                                                                 
     ALLOCATION: Public Defender Agency                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $387.5 UGF 1004                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  Restore  cut  proposed  by  Governor  and                                                                    
     accepted  by  Finance Committee.  Eliminating  contract                                                                    
     services  will create  a future  backlog  of cases  and                                                                    
     appeals requiring  even more  funds to resolve.  PDA is                                                                    
     working to foster in-house capacity  to reduce the need                                                                    
     for contract services.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  explained   that  the  amendment                                                                    
would  restore  a  governor's cut  to  the  Public  Defender                                                                    
Agency.  He  stressed  the   importance  of  the  amendment;                                                                    
without the  funding the courts  would be  backlogged. Other                                                                    
entities   would   be    backlogged   as   well   including,                                                                    
prosecutors,  troopers,  and   jailers.  The  funding  would                                                                    
ensure  that people  had  access to  a  public defender.  He                                                                    
noted that ideally all people  would have the ability to pay                                                                    
for their own attorney; however, that was not the reality.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:23:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  spoke in support  of the  amendment. He                                                                    
relayed  that   victims  would  also  be   backlogged  by  a                                                                    
backlogged system.  He noted that victims  of violent crimes                                                                    
waited for  their case to  be resolved; the cut  would delay                                                                    
the time when the victim would  get to see some justice. The                                                                    
amendment would help alleviate some  of the pain experienced                                                                    
by victims of violent crimes.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis   testified  in  opposition   to  the                                                                    
amendment. She had  elected not to make any  further cuts to                                                                    
the  Department of  Administration increment  in the  budget                                                                    
subcommittee. She  stated that  the bigger problem  was that                                                                    
new laws were needed that would  make changes to some of the                                                                    
reasons people  were put  in jail. She  did not  believe the                                                                    
increment in  the amendment would  make the  difference. She                                                                    
believed some  consequences needed to be  changed that would                                                                    
enable people to "get in  and move on." She proposed working                                                                    
with the amendment sponsors to develop new statute.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Pruitt, Saddler,  Wilson,  Edgmon, Gattis,  Munoz,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 73 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 74:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, and                                                                          
     Kawasaki                                                                                                                   
     DEPARTMENT: Public Safety                                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Alaska Bureau of Investigation                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $191.5 UGF (1004)                                                                                                     
     POSITIONS: 2 PFT positions                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   Cold  case   investigators  help   solve                                                                    
     murders that have to date  been unsolved. Alaska's cold                                                                    
     case   investigators   have   been   successful.   This                                                                    
     amendment  restores  two  of  the  four  positions  the                                                                    
     Governor cut.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  explained  that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
reinstate two  of the four cold  case investigator positions                                                                    
that had  been cut  from the budget.  He detailed  that cold                                                                    
case investigators  did an amazing  job solving  crimes that                                                                    
had  gone  unsolved  for  a long  time.  Given  the  state's                                                                    
growing population, he  believed it was hard  to imagine the                                                                    
need for  cold case investigators decreasing.  He elaborated                                                                    
that there was need to help  victims with closure and to get                                                                    
dangerous  people  off  the  street.   He  stated  that  the                                                                    
amendment included a modest add to a questionable cut.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:26:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon relayed  that  according  to DPS  the                                                                    
four  cold   case  troopers  were  retired   state  troopers                                                                    
performing  highly specialized  services.  He detailed  that                                                                    
the  department  believed  retaining  as  many  troopers  in                                                                    
regular  patrol was  important.  The  department offered  to                                                                    
have other  troopers provide  the services  in place  of the                                                                    
specialized troopers.  He agreed that the  situation was not                                                                    
ideal,  but it  allowed the  department to  keep four  other                                                                    
troopers in  a regular  rotation conducting  highway patrol,                                                                    
working   various  detachments,   and  providing   oversight                                                                    
functions  in  remote  communities. He  concluded  that  the                                                                    
decision had been difficult, but  the department had offered                                                                    
the cut through the governor's budget.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW Amendment 74.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 75:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY: Representatives  Kawasaki, Guttenberg  and                                                                    
     Gara                                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Public Safety                                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Alaska State Troopers                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION: Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $146.8 (UGF)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     POSITIONS: Add 1 PFT position                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This  amendment   restores  the  Wrangell                                                                    
     trooper position  that was decremented by  the Governor                                                                    
     and accepted by the House Subcommittee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki explained that the amendment would                                                                      
restore the one trooper position in Wrangell.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon relayed  that the  decision had  been                                                                    
difficult,  but DPS  felt that  the trooper  from Petersburg                                                                    
could   provide  similar   services.  He   noted  that   the                                                                    
department  had brought  the cut  forward, which  the budget                                                                    
subcommittee had accepted.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
7:29:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki WITHDREW Amendment 75.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 76:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY: Representatives  Kawasaki, Guttenberg  and                                                                    
     Gara                                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Department of Public Safety                                                                                    
     APPROPRIATION: Alaska Wildlife Troopers                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION: Aircraft Section                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $1,187.0 (GF)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This   amendment  restores  half   of  an                                                                    
     increment  requested  by  the  Governor  that  was  not                                                                    
     approved   by  the   subcommittee.  According   to  the                                                                    
     Department   of  Public   Safety,  an   audit  actually                                                                    
     recommended even  more than the  8 permanent  full time                                                                    
     employees   that   were  originally   financed.   These                                                                    
     positions would  impact the ability of  Alaska Wildlife                                                                    
     Troopers to maintain their  aircraft. The Division must                                                                    
     enforce  Fish  and  Game   regulations  in  the  entire                                                                    
     586,000 square  miles of Alaska  as well as  its 36,000                                                                    
     miles of  coastline. The Aircraft Section  provides the                                                                    
     Department with  aircraft that are safe  and dependable                                                                    
     to  complete their  patrols and  other law  enforcement                                                                    
     assignments.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  explained the amendment  that would                                                                    
restore  half of  the increment  requested  by the  governor                                                                    
that had not been approved  by the DPS Finance Subcommittee.                                                                    
The governor's  request would have  funded the  operation of                                                                    
King  Air, and  A-Star  [helicopters] out  of Anchorage  and                                                                    
Fairbanks.  He  detailed that  the  aircrafts  were used  in                                                                    
tandem with things like the  mast unit located in Anchorage,                                                                    
the  civil air  patrol,  volunteers for  search and  rescue,                                                                    
crime  scene investigation,  or  incidents  in progress.  He                                                                    
stated  that  the cut  would  put  the aircrafts  in  "cold"                                                                    
status, which he did not  support. He referred to hunters in                                                                    
Fairbanks  who were  picked up  by the  aircrafts. He  noted                                                                    
that mast had originally  taken over the responsibility, but                                                                    
that was not  its role; it was  the statutory responsibility                                                                    
of DPS.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  relayed that  the reduction  had been                                                                    
the most  difficult decision the  subcommittee had  made. He                                                                    
noted that the subcommittee had  not cut a large amount from                                                                    
the department.  He elaborated that  the reduction  had come                                                                    
in concurrence  with the  department. The  subcommittee felt                                                                    
that to add  eight additional positions would  make what was                                                                    
the largest  aircraft fleet of any  public safety department                                                                    
nationwide,  more  vulnerable  for reduction  the  following                                                                    
year. The  additional positions had  come through  audits by                                                                    
the  National Transportation  Safety Board  and the  Federal                                                                    
Aviation  Administration.  The  aircraft  section  had  been                                                                    
operating without the additional  positions. He relayed that                                                                    
in a perfect world with  no revenue shortfalls the positions                                                                    
may have  been added,  but given  the financial  climate the                                                                    
subcommittee had elected to scale back the positions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis  shared that  she  had  come from  an                                                                    
aviation background.  She remarked  that the  private sector                                                                    
would  be available  for  hire  on a  charter  basis or  for                                                                    
mechanic work. She  opined that the private  sector would be                                                                    
ready if the state was in need of the service.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Saddler, Wilson,  Edgmon,  Gattis, Munoz,  Pruitt,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 76 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 77:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED  BY: Representatives  Kawasaki, Guttenberg  and                                                                    
     Gara                                                                                                                       
     DEPARTMENT: Natural Resources                                                                                              
     APPROPRIATION: Administration & Support Services                                                                           
     ALLOCATION: Recorder's Office                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $202.0 (UGF).                                                                                                         
     POSITIONS: 2 PFT Positions                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  These funds  would reopen  the Recorder's                                                                    
     Offices  in  Ketchikan  and   Sitka,  but  allow  those                                                                    
     offices  in Homer  and Valdez  to close.  Ketchikan and                                                                    
     Sitka are  isolated from the road  system and residents                                                                    
     do not have access to  a Recorder's Office. While there                                                                    
     is  a  department-wide  effort   to  make  all  filings                                                                    
     electronic, access  to a  physical office  is paramount                                                                    
     to protecting the rights of Alaskans.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  explained that the  amendment would                                                                    
restore  two  out  of  six  positions  in  state  Recorder's                                                                    
Offices;   offices  were   currently   located  in   Kodiak,                                                                    
Ketchikan,  Homer, Valdez,  and Sitka.  He relayed  that the                                                                    
Homer office  was moving to  Anchorage. The  amendment would                                                                    
add  two  positions  that  were   off  the  road  system  in                                                                    
Ketchikan and  Sitka. The  justification for  the selections                                                                    
was that  someone on the  road system could probably  get to                                                                    
an office.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt remarked  that technology upgrades had                                                                    
allowed  for filing  efficiencies.  He  believed the  online                                                                    
capability  would enable  the state  to continue  to provide                                                                    
service at a reduced funding level.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis surmised that the locations off the                                                                       
road system were a part of the U.S. mail system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED: Wilson, Edgmon, Gattis, Munoz, Pruitt, Saddler,                                                                        
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 77 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 78:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
     DEPARTMENT:    Commerce,   Community,    and   Economic                                                                    
     Development                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Tourism Marketing & Development                                                                             
     ALLOCATION: Tourism Marketing                                                                                              
    DELETE: $3,000,000 Unrestricted General Fund (1004)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  $1,500,000 Statutory  Designated Program  Receipt                                                                    
     (1108)                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:  Language   Section:  An  amount  not   to  exceed                                                                    
     $1,500,000  is   appropriated  to  the   Department  of                                                                    
     Commerce, Community  and Economic  Development, Tourism                                                                    
     Marketing   and  Development   from  the   unrestricted                                                                    
     general  fund  to  match  each   dollar  in  excess  of                                                                    
     $2,700,000 contributed by the tourism industry.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This  amendment  removes $3  million  UGF                                                                    
     from  the   Tourism  Marketing  budget;   reducing  UGF                                                                    
     funding  from  $9,264,400  to $6,264,400.  The  Tourism                                                                    
     Marketing   budget  also   includes  $2.7   million  of                                                                    
     Statutory Designated  Program Receipt  (SDPR) authority                                                                    
     for receipts collected from  the tourism industry. This                                                                    
     amendment  increases SDPR  authority  to $4.2  million.                                                                    
     The language  portion of this  amendment will  match up                                                                    
     to $1.5 million of the  newly authorized SDPR with UGF.                                                                    
     This one-time  match will retain  the level  of Tourism                                                                    
     Marketing  in the  Finance CS,  while reducing  the UGF                                                                    
     budget by $1.5 million.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara addressed  the DCCED budget subcommittee                                                                    
$9.26  million recommendation  to fund  the state's  tourism                                                                    
marketing campaign.  He detailed that the  campaign provided                                                                    
print, radio,  and television advertisements.  The amendment                                                                    
would allow the same amount of  money to go to the marketing                                                                    
program,  but  with a  contribution  from  the industry.  He                                                                    
communicated that outside of the  cruise ship industry, most                                                                    
tourism companies  did not contribute to  marketing campaign                                                                    
costs. He  elaborated that  the only  companies that  paid a                                                                    
tax in  Alaska were C-corporations outside  of oil, fishing,                                                                    
and  a couple  of  other areas;  any  other businesses  paid                                                                    
nothing more  than their  $100 license  fee. He  stated that                                                                    
businesses  in the  tourism industry  did  pay to  advertise                                                                    
their  companies  in a  vacation  planner  (paid to  DCCED);                                                                    
however, he did not attribute  the personal advertising as a                                                                    
contribution to  the marketing campaign.  He added  that the                                                                    
vacation planner worked well.  The amendment would remove $3                                                                    
million in  UGF from the Tourism  Marketing budget; reducing                                                                    
UGF  funding   from  $9.2  million  to   $6.2  million.  The                                                                    
amendment  included a  50/50 match  specifying  that if  the                                                                    
industry  contributed up  to $1.5  million, the  state would                                                                    
match  the funds.  He stressed  that  there had  to be  some                                                                    
contribution  from industry.  He discussed  that determining                                                                    
where to  cut the budget  was not  easy. He noted  that kids                                                                    
and others were baring much  of the burden imposed by budget                                                                    
cuts.  He believed  it was  necessary to  locate able-bodied                                                                    
adults  who could  carry  some  of the  burden  as well.  He                                                                    
communicated  that   other  states  had  taxes   on  tourism                                                                    
companies;  the  companies  received  tax  credits  if  they                                                                    
contributed to  a tourism  marketing campaign.  He concluded                                                                    
that  a  voluntary  contribution  to  help  match  had  been                                                                    
discussed in the legislature for a long time.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
7:38:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz opposed the  amendment and believed the                                                                    
state needed  to support its small  businesses. She believed                                                                    
that Alaska needed to stay  in the marketing game. She spoke                                                                    
to  competition  with   other  locations  including  Hawaii,                                                                    
Europe,  Mexico, and  Latin America.  She observed  that the                                                                    
marketing budget  had already been reduced  from $16 million                                                                    
down to  $9 million. She  stressed that the reduction  was a                                                                    
significant hit in one year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt opposed  the amendment.  He discussed                                                                    
that the reduction  had been made in one  of his committees.                                                                    
He applauded the idea of  asking the industry to continue to                                                                    
contribute;  however, the  subcommittee had  already reduced                                                                    
the tourism marketing budget by  $6 million. He did not want                                                                    
to imply that he did not  want to discuss the concept in the                                                                    
future. He  believed it was  necessary to give  the industry                                                                    
an  opportunity  for  "step  down."  He  noted  that  Alaska                                                                    
Seafood Marketing  Institute (ASMI)  had taken a  40 percent                                                                    
cut.  He  elaborated  that  there  had been  a  goal  to  be                                                                    
equitable on the cuts.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis had  a  difficult  time opposing  the                                                                    
amendment.  She reasoned  that the  amendment reduced  state                                                                    
funds, which  aligned with what [majority]  members had been                                                                    
asking  for  throughout  the meeting.  She  wanted  to  hear                                                                    
further comments before making a decision on the amendment.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
7:41:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg stated  that tourism marketing had                                                                    
been on  the table over the  years. He believed that  at one                                                                    
point it  had been decided  that tourism marketing  would be                                                                    
wholly  financed by  the  industry with  a  state match.  He                                                                    
wanted Alaskan  tourism to  be strong,  but he  believed the                                                                    
amendment  was  appropriate   under  the  current  financial                                                                    
circumstances.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Wilson   supported   the   chair   of   the                                                                    
subcommittee, although  she did  agree with  the amendment's                                                                    
direction.  She  had  struggled  with the  issue  due  to  a                                                                    
statutory   requirement  specifying   that  the   state  was                                                                    
supposed  to  match  funds  raised   by  the  industry.  She                                                                    
questioned what  counted as raising  money (e.g.  funds from                                                                    
rental cars and other). She did  not know enough to vote for                                                                    
the amendment  at present. She  hoped that the chair  of the                                                                    
committee would  look closer to determine  whether there was                                                                    
other  revenue the  state  should be  looking  at (i.e.  the                                                                    
possibility of taxing S-corporations).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:43:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz OBJECTED.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Saddler, Thompson, Neuman                                                                           
OPPOSED: Gattis, Munoz, Pruitt, Wilson, Edgmon                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki was absent from the vote.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 78 FAILED (5/5).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 79:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Guttenberg and Gara                                                                            
     DEPARTMENT: Natural Resources                                                                                              
    APPROPRIATION: Administration and Support Services                                                                          
     ALLOCATION: Citizen's Advisory Commission on Federal                                                                       
     Areas                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $288.1 UGF l004                                                                                                    
     POSITIONS: 1 PFT, 1 FT seasonal (11 months/year)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: Unnecessary function of state government.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  explained  the  amendment  would                                                                    
delete the  Citizen's Advisory  Commission on  Federal Areas                                                                    
and  would  eliminate  1.5 positions.  He  stated  that  the                                                                    
commission  provided  an   unnecessary  government  function                                                                    
given that the work was  already conducted by the state, the                                                                    
governor, the Department of Law,  DNR, and legislative floor                                                                    
citations.  He added  that the  public had  also weighed  in                                                                    
strongly.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Amendment 79 was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
7:46:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg MOVED to ADOPT Amendment 80:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Rep. Guttenberg                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Revenue                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Language Section                                                                                            
     ALLOCATION: Fund Capitalization                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD: $500,000,000 UGF 1004                                                                                                 
     Add text: "not to exceed $500,000,000"                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE: $700,000,000 UGF 1004                                                                                              
     Delete text: "estimated to be $700,000,000"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION: Amend  language HB 72, page  70, lines 4-9                                                                    
     as follows: (d)  If the balance of the oil  and gas tax                                                                    
     credit  fund   (AS  43  .55.028)  is   insufficient  to                                                                    
     purchase transfer tax  credit certificates issued under                                                                    
     AS 43  .55.023 and  production tax  credit certificates                                                                    
     issued  under  AS  43.55.025  that  are  presented  for                                                                    
     purchase,   the  amount   by  which   the  tax   credit                                                                    
     certificates   presented  for   purchase  exceeds   the                                                                    
     balance  of  the  fund,   not  to  exceed  $500,000.000                                                                    
     [estimated  to be  $700,000,000]  is appropriated  from                                                                    
     the general  fund to  the oil and  gas tax  credit fund                                                                    
     (AS 43.55 .028).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg explained  the amendment. He spoke                                                                    
to tax  credits provided  by the  state to  the oil  and gas                                                                    
industry. He  explained that two  of the credit  types could                                                                    
be cashed  in for a  certificate; others were allowed  to be                                                                    
written off  on taxes. He  noted that the  certificate could                                                                    
be sold  from one  company to another.  He relayed  that DNR                                                                    
had different  estimates on the  amounts from year  to year,                                                                    
but some  would be or  had expired. He highlighted  that the                                                                    
expected outlay for the credits  in cash in the current year                                                                    
was  $700 million.  The amendment  would reduce  the credits                                                                    
from $700  million to $500  million. He elaborated  that the                                                                    
credits would  still be  honored by  the state.  He stressed                                                                    
that he was  not asking the state to not  honor the credits.                                                                    
He opined that  the state needed to tell  the people looking                                                                    
to cash the credits in that  it only had $500 million of the                                                                    
projected  $700   million.  He   detailed  that   under  the                                                                    
amendment  companies would  cash in  on a  first come  first                                                                    
serve basis; the department would  pay out until the cap was                                                                    
reached, which  was expected  to occur in  May or  June. The                                                                    
department  would  begin paying  out  credits  again at  the                                                                    
start of the next fiscal year on July 1.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman asked  committee  members  to refrain  from                                                                    
using technology at the table.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Guttenberg   continued   to   explain   the                                                                    
amendment,  specifying  that the  state  did  not have  $700                                                                    
million to pay for credits in  the current year; it would be                                                                    
necessary for  companies to wait  a few months.  He remarked                                                                    
that perhaps  the price of  oil would increase,  but perhaps                                                                    
it would not.  He addressed that if projections  by DOR were                                                                    
accurate, the  price of oil  would continue to  decline. The                                                                    
amendment  specified to  companies that  they would  have to                                                                    
wait a  few additional months  to receive their cash  due to                                                                    
the state's  budget crisis. He  believed the  industry would                                                                    
understand the  situation. He emphasized that  the amendment                                                                    
did  not  represent a  change  to  tax policy;  the  state's                                                                    
liability  for the  credits would  remain. He  stressed that                                                                    
paying out  $700 million  in cash  was a  substantial burden                                                                    
for  the state  in  the current  year.  The credits  applied                                                                    
statewide  for Prudhoe  Bay, Cook  Inlet,  and Middle  Earth                                                                    
because they could not differentiate  between tax payers. He                                                                    
compared the  situation to curtailing a  promise to increase                                                                    
funding to  education in  the current  year. He  believed it                                                                    
was  necessary to  have participation  across the  political                                                                    
spectrum. He opined  that in another state  the budget would                                                                    
include  much   more  than  reductions;  it   would  include                                                                    
increases  in  motor-fuel  tax, road  service  charges,  and                                                                    
income tax. He stated that  the amendment was the closest to                                                                    
achieving a balance  sheet that looked at both  sides of the                                                                    
equation. He summarized  that the state could  not afford to                                                                    
pay the out $700 million  in the present year; the amendment                                                                    
would  pay  out  $500  million  in  the  current  year.  The                                                                    
legislature would figure out what  to do the following year.                                                                    
He emphasized that the state's liability would remain.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
7:52:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                                            
OPPOSED:  Gattis, Munoz,  Pruitt,  Saddler, Wilson,  Edgmon,                                                                    
Thompson, Neuman                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 80 FAILED (3/8).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
7:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment 81  [Note: a                                                                    
copy of the  backup letter from the  Alaska Energy Authority                                                                    
to the  Office of  Management and  Budget, dated  January 8,                                                                    
2015 is on file.]:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     OFFERED BY: Representatives Gara, Guttenberg, Kawasaki                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 2, following "capitalizing funds;":                                                                           
     Insert "lapsing appropriations"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 76, line 18, following "APPROPRIATIONS.":                                                                             
     Insert "(a)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 76, line 19:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Insert  new subsections  to read:  "(b) the  unexpended                                                                    
     and unobligated balance on June  30, 2015, estimated to                                                                    
     be $17,973,847,  of the appropriation made  in sec. 01,                                                                    
     ch. 16, SLA  2013, page 12, lines 20-21,  lapses to the                                                                    
     general fund on June 30, 2015."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This causes  the  available general  fund                                                                    
     balance appropriated to the  Anchorage - U-Med District                                                                    
     Northern  Access  project  to lapse  into  the  general                                                                    
     fund. The Bragaw Road extension  in Anchorage is not an                                                                    
     affordable  project  compared  to other  priorities  in                                                                    
     this fiscal climate.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     "(c)  $6  million  of the  unexpended  and  unobligated                                                                    
     balances,  estimated to  be a  total of  $6,681,700, of                                                                    
     the appropriations  made in  sec. 4,  ch. 16  SLA 2013,                                                                    
     page 105,  lines 20-24, and  sec. 4, ch. 18,  SLA 2014,                                                                    
     page 87,  lines 10-11,  and without elimination  of any                                                                    
     department  positions, lapses  to the  general fund  on                                                                    
     June 30, 2015."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:  This causes  the  available general  fund                                                                    
     balance  appropriated  to Susitna-Watana  Hydroelectric                                                                    
     projects to  lapse into the  general fund.  The Susitna                                                                    
     Dam would serve  the same customers as  the two gasline                                                                    
     projects being  considered by the  State at  this time,                                                                    
     and all three  projects will bring excess  power to the                                                                    
     Railbelt.  This   amendment  withdraws   the  remaining                                                                    
     unobligated funds with appropriated  to the Susitna Dam                                                                    
     in a  time of  budget shortfalls.  This lapse  does not                                                                    
     affect any positions at DCCED.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara explained that  the amendment sought $23                                                                    
million in  savings. He elaborated that  currently there was                                                                    
enough money in the Susitna-Watana  project its work for the                                                                    
coming fiscal  year. He  believed the  $6 million  left over                                                                    
should  be reappropriated  to the  General  Fund. He  stated                                                                    
that the Susitna  project served the same  people that three                                                                    
potential   gas  lines   would   serve.  Additionally,   the                                                                    
amendment   would  remove   funds  from   the  Bragaw   Road                                                                    
extension. The amendment sought to  use the savings from the                                                                    
two projects to help cut the budget deficit by $23 million.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
7:54:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Guttenberg, Kawasaki, Edgmon, Gara                                                                                    
OPPOSED: Gattis,  Munoz, Pruitt, Saddler,  Wilson, Thompson,                                                                    
Neuman                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION to adopt Amendment 81 FAILED (4/7).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson  MOVED  to   authorize  the  Division  of                                                                    
Legislative Finance  and Legislative Legal Services  to make                                                                    
technical  and  conforming  amendments  to  incorporate  the                                                                    
amendments adopted by the committee into a CS.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
HB  72  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  73  was   HEARD  and  HELD  in   committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman discussed  the schedule  for the  following                                                                    
morning.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 72 - HB 73 Budget Amendments.pdf HFIN 3/10/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 72
HB 73
HB 72 Amendment 22 Backup.pdf HFIN 3/10/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 72
HB 72 HB 73 Amendments with Actions.pdf HFIN 3/10/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 72
HB 73
HB 72 Public Testimony PKT 7.pdf.1.pdf HFIN 3/10/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 72